dan_smee
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we're just arguing about semantics at this point
agreed, but whether its semantics or not, it goes a fair way to proving my point that passengers isn't a U2 album: it is an album featuring U2
we're just arguing about semantics at this point
debatable. I can't listen to it start to finish. There are 3, maybe 4 songs i can genuinely listen to all the way through.
Interesting is an interesting word too, because it definately is weird, strange, more out there than anything this decade, but in my opinion only Miss Sarajevo and Your Blue Room would even be considered close to ANYTHING else released in this decade.
Passengers=some wacky shite
Case closed.
Interesting means what it should mean in this context. I simply find it more intriguing and replayable from start to finish than ATYCLB or HTDAAB. This does not, however, mean that it's better song-for-song.
agreed, but whether its semantics or not, it goes a fair way to proving my point that passengers isn't a U2 album: it is an album featuring U2
Also, it appears to me that those who dislike Passengers are more inclined to categorize and sweep it under the rug. A logical reaction, but it sort of bothers me because U2 (well, 3 out of 4 members) are not ashamed of the album at all. They just released it the way they did to be fair to the fans.
Just an observation.
"Every sailor knows that the sea is a friend made enemy..."
I REALLY want to hear Every Breaking Wave!
As I always say, it’s not U2 because… it’s not U2. But it sits on my shelf where it absolutely belongs – right in between Zooropa and Pop.
They didn’t go in there to record a weird side project, they went in there just to muck around much like they did for Zooropa. They had a buzz in their head, and they went in to muck around with it. And much like Zooropa they had no idea what they were doing as it was going. Album? EP? Something else? Shits and giggles? I believe the debate over what to call it came up late in the game. It clearly isn’t a U2 album in that they clearly couldn’t have released it under the U2 name. They got that. I get that. I personally would have loved them to have the balls to do that, but they would have been crucified. If they were a 30% smaller band, they could have, but U-fucking-2 (in big lights and fireworks going off) couldn’t do it. You couldn’t have U2 drop a new album with all of that hype - which, even if they did their absolute best to minimize it, it would still absolutely be there - and then hand the world United Colours. So… that mixed with the extended nature of the group created the new name.
It does though perfectly fit after Zooropa and before Pop. It makes perfect sense. They add the groove on Achtung, they explore it further in it’s more natural electro setting on Zooropa, then they almost wholly hand themselves over to the beeps and tweeks on Passengers before reigning it all back into one on their most guitar heavy and electronically bedded album, Pop, kind of tying Achtung and Passengers together (in a very dark room under a very chaotic city). They went on a run and they were just smart enough to know that a certain % of the fanbase would have had a heart attack upon them reaching one extreme end of it. A lot of people hated Zooropa already, and afterwards, plenty hated Pop, so you can imagine the reaction if Passengers were U2 – Passengers. They made the right decision, but it doesn’t negate what is on that disc, how it came about and where it absolutely fits.
Also, it’s not like they’re not happy to mix the two. The Miss Sarajevo CD single featured One live + a song called Bottoms, which was just an electronic, funkier version of Zoo Station (minus vocals). They do Miss Sarajevo live, they feature it on U2 compilations. It’s not a U2 album, but it’s part of U2’s story and definitely part of their, ahem, ‘musical journey’.
Bravo, and well played Sir
I would love to be proved wrong, but I think you're way off base here.
They've been saying they're going to release a new album quickly for the last ten years....and it doesn't happen.
Come on man, they've got families and such........
It's interesting how always the not released tracks seem to be the most interesting ones.
I liked what I read about Every Breaking Wave, especially the title, but I have no idea how the song would have really sounded. So maybe it didn't fit on the album and they decided against releasing it. It will surface sooner or later. We don't know how many more songs U2 have finished and not put on the album, there are certainly some great songs there as well.
I'm pretty positive that Tripoli turned into F-BB.
To be fair
A) the story goes that the studio were the ones who pushed for it to not be a U2 album
B) Miss Sarajevo made an appearance on the best of U2 1990-2000 so the band clearly thinks its a U2 song from a U2 album
Yes, but they will be released exclusively in The Even More Complete U2 on iTunes and you will have to buy everything U2 has ever done AGAIN to hear them.
But you'll get 50 bucks off if you buy a U2 iPhone.