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I was born 20 minutes outside the city. If you think the lyrics to NY are better than The Unforgettable Fire or All I Want is You.... well, I have no reply... that's crazy talk! :O
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I was born 20 minutes outside the city. If you think the lyrics to NY are better than The Unforgettable Fire or All I Want is You.... well, I have no reply... that's crazy talk! :O
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I did't say they were better than those tunes. I said they were some of his best.
He nails the city. And yes, I've lived there.
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I'd have to listen to it again.
If you want to say Walk On or Kite are rockers... well, they're softer than the ballads on POP or HTDAAB. I think the bar is going pretty low at that point...
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So, when you say "some of his best" is it in the top 10? Top 20? Top 50?
I'd have an easy time finding 50 U2 songs with better lyrics and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you would too.
Did he describe the city accurately? Sure. That's not all poetry demands. I find the lyrics cringe-worthy.
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you don't think ballads can be rock songs?
what do "bars" have to do with anything?
and you didn't answer my question.
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Top 20.
I'd say he describes the city in summer pretty well. But that's not all he's doing. And rock lyrics aren't poetry. They're rock lyrics.
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This is where your bias takes over...
Listen to those two songs again back to back. Regardless of your like or dislike of either song, describing Please as a "rocker" and Walk On as a ballad is just mind blowing.
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New York along with Miami are two songs that could have been some of U2's best but fail miserably due to the lyrics.
Musically they are both great, but Bono let both of these songs down.
Some of Bono's worse.
Musically they are both great, but Bono let both of these songs down.
Some of Bono's worse.
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I generally think of them as opposites.
I'm using the word "bar" as in "standard" here.
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I would say Please is on the softer side of what I would count, but if someone wanted to disqualify it I wouldn't argue that hard. Walk On is pretty soft. In my opinion softer than Please, but neither of them is exactly Exit!
P.S. Walk On sucks!
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I thought Miami was at least funny and worked for what it was, but when it came to New York, Bono thought he could repeat that style, and the joke just wasn't funny anymore.
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U2 have a wide tent. People with WILDLY different taste all like 'em. Sounds like you and I have wildly different taste in lyrics.
You're saying that you honestly think New York has better lyrics than all songs Bono has ever written, save a maximum of 19? I honestly don't believe you. If you had to think about it, I'm sure you could think of at least 20 U2 songs with better lyrics. If you can't - you and I just have to part ways on this.
For starters, how about the 23 songs on The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby? You think there are at least 4 of them lyrically inferior to New York? Ooookay....
gvox
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There is no way in hell New York is in Bono's top 20 lyrical efforts. Not even remotely close.
I dig the song sometimes, but it's barely even top 50, even.
I dig the song sometimes, but it's barely even top 50, even.
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I can't stand it when people misuse "worse" and "worst."
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Irvine511 said:
My bad, I blame the iPhone.
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Wait, you don't agree with me, so I'm lying? What a strange thought.
Maybe you're lying. Can't think of a logical reason why, but turnabout is
always fair play.
Also, I'm very familiar with the entirety of U2's catalog.
LemonMelon
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The guy thinks Bono's hair is the secret to U2's success. Why respond?
Niceman
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Fair enough! But at least I'm not crazy enough to claim that I can't think of 20 U2 songs with better lyrics than New York!
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So which songs on The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby would you list as having lyrics NOT as strong as New York? (And unless you think all 19 of the other top 20 are on those 2 albums, I assume you'll be calling out more than 4?)
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gloves are off.. no more Mr. Niceman
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Registered Dude
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Oh yeah? Well, I bet you're not even registered, are you?
terrible user name, isn't it?
it's so coming out in 3 weeks, guys
iota
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U2 have a higher success rate when Bono had long hair. THAT is not a secret, that is a fact.
Give me the example of U2's success rate when Bono looks like Mork.
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Image is a part of being in the top 40, that's just a fact.
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Identifying a funny coincidental correlation between Bono's hair length and album sales is one thing.
Having an earnest discussion about Bono's hair length as it relates to sales and being concerned that the band will continue to be a commercial failure if Bono's hair remains short is quite another.
Also, we all know that Bono looks exactly like Robin Williams, so he ALWAYS looks like Mork! That's a trick question.
And, finally, at the risk of venturing into "earnest discussion about hair and sales" territory, if image is so important for U2's album sales, then they walk a fine line between thinking that long hair will equate to better sales vs long hair meaning fewer sales because he could look like he's trying too hard for a man of 52 ... or 58 by the time an album comes out.
Having an earnest discussion about Bono's hair length as it relates to sales and being concerned that the band will continue to be a commercial failure if Bono's hair remains short is quite another.
Also, we all know that Bono looks exactly like Robin Williams, so he ALWAYS looks like Mork! That's a trick question.
And, finally, at the risk of venturing into "earnest discussion about hair and sales" territory, if image is so important for U2's album sales, then they walk a fine line between thinking that long hair will equate to better sales vs long hair meaning fewer sales because he could look like he's trying too hard for a man of 52 ... or 58 by the time an album comes out.
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