diamond said:
Could this be the "Truth Boat" that swiftly brings Hilary down?
dbs
Heh. Truth.
At least we can take comfort in the fact that our most arduous believers will always seek the truth no matter how it suits their politics. I mean, right?
Apparently it doesn't even have to be the truth to have an effect.
Those who repeat lies are still perpetrating lies.
Who would want to stand behind a group of disgusting liars?
Speaking of liars, I remember a particular thread about phony soldiers and a particular link posted by a particular poster.....
Who would would beleive these (below) partisan lies, even after notable Republicans and Conservatives like John McCain and Bill O'Reilly condmened them:
Alfred French was the first man who appeared in the first SBL ad.
French did his best to discredit Kerry in the ad.
Then French, in an interview told The Oregonian
"I was not a witness to these events but my friends were,"
after signing an affidavit to tell the truth, he said "I served with John Kerry. . . . He is lying about his record."
apparently he wasn't telling the truth. For shame.
George Elliot was the 3rd person seen in the first SBL ad.
In Dec 1969 he wrote :
"In a combat environment often requiring independent, decisive action, LTJG Kerry was unsurpassed........(he was an)acknowledged leader in his peer group. His bearing and appearance are above reproach."
April 13, 2004, Elliott told USA Today
""This was an exemplary action," he said. "There's no question about."
Aug 2004, The Boston Globe
The Boston Globe, "It was a terrible mistake probably for me to sign the affidavit with those words. I'm the one in trouble here. ... I knew it was wrong. ... In a hurry I signed it and faxed it back. That was a mistake."
Louis Letson, 4th person in the first SBL ad.
Military records prove that he was lying when he said he treated Kerry for his wounds. He would go on later to say that it was what he had overheard, even after signing the affidavit.
William Schachte
Said he was with them on the boat, this was refuted by alll 3 men actually on the boat, he couldn't prove otherwise and wouldn't you know it? He never signed the affidavit, he is after all an attorney himself.
Adrian Lonsdale
In 1996 (Kerry Senatorial race) said to Massachussets reporters:
"It was because of the bravery and the courage of the young officers that ran boats ... the swift boats and the Coast Guard cutters, and Senator Kerry was no exception." 8 years later he has a change of heart...hmm, I wonder why?
Larry Thurlow
April 2004 told USA Today:
"was extremely brave, and I wouldn't argue that point."
Signed an affidavit a few months later and claimed they weren't even under fire that day.
The Washington Post got ahold of the citation for a Bronze Star that Thurlow won that very same day for actions on a boat that was right alongside Kerry's. The citation detailed how both his boat and Kerry's boat faced "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire." Liar
Roy Hoffmann
In 1969 he wrote:
That Kerry's actions were a "shining example of completely overwhelming the enemy."
June 2003, Boston Globe
on the actions: ''It took guts, and I admire that.''
"I am not going to say anything negative about him. He's a good man."
May 6, 2004, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
Hoffman "acknowledged he had no first-hand knowledge to discredit Kerry's claims to valor and said that although Kerry was under his command, he really didn't know Kerry much personally." The next month, Hoffmann reiterated, "I did not know Kerry personally. I didn't ride the boat with him."
John O'Neill wrote the SBL book. He said 60 men contributed to it. 1 of them served directly with Kerry (Stephen Gardner). I could give you no less than 500 words discrediting this sack of garbage.
What about his absolute hack of a co-author, Jerome Corsi?
Who once posted on an online forum, that Islam was a "worthless, dangerous Satanic religion" and further ""RAGHEADS are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together" implied that Kerry's Jewish ancestry was some sort of problem and also implied that Hillary Clinton must have been a lesbian because she couldn't keep Bill satisifed.
This is the type of crowd that those who believe the Swift Liars stand behind. It takes no more than a Google search to find any of this.
As for Partisan ties, if you still doubt that, wake up:
4 Bush campaign officials were linked to the group including Ken Cordier, who actually appeared in an ad. John O'Neill goes way back with the Bush family, Merrie Spaeth, the spokesperson for the SBL worked on the 2000 Bush campiagn, Bob Perry longtime associate of Karl Rove, Harlan Crow, trustee of the Bush Library, Margaret Wilson was counsel for Bush when was Governor of Texas.
And above all else, the dude Kerry pulled from the water, he's of course lying as well (right?) as the others in the same group. All but Stephen Gardner, who has to be telling the truth, I mean, for goodness sakes he got John O'Neill and 50 other people who weren't even there or witnessed it.
Anywhoo, just a
SMALL sampling of these particular
LIARS. This is an old issue meant to display a certain hypocrisy, I'll be glad to debate the veracity of that particular pack of lies any day of the week.
It's too bad there are posters who make garbage claims or random posts and then refuse to even debate the validity of them in any way. Worthless.