Right. Which is dumb.Ah, but we've discussed this before
The NFC east opponents like to play mind games with the Cowgals by making them wear their dark blue.
Right. Which is dumb.Ah, but we've discussed this before
The NFC east opponents like to play mind games with the Cowgals by making them wear their dark blue.
Myles Garrett might get suspended for the rest of the season. That was a wild scene, man.
a full 16 games is at least 8 games too many. antonio smith got 3 games for doing basically the same thing in 2013 (he just didn't connect with richie incognito's head unfortunately), and albert haynesworth stomping a guy's face with his cleats and giving him 30 stitches earned 5 games which is the longest suspension ever for a single on-field incident. giving garrett a suspension over 3x longer than the previous record would for sure be quickly appealed successfully by the NFLPA.
But you’re relating it to something criminal in nature. You think precedence matters here and I disagree. All the NFL has to do is say that they’ve been doing everything they can to make the game safer and that’s why they’re trying to be stricter on intent to injure.
Look at what the NHL did to Todd Bertuzzi and ask yourself if the NHL was better off or worse off because of it.
bertuzzi was suspended for less than a quarter of a season (20 of 82 games) whereas garrett is out for well over a third of this season (6 of 16), but i get your point.
vontaze burfict should get a lifetime ban before garrett does if we're getting into the business of handing them out (not to mention the various domestic abusers still taking snaps every week).
You think precedence matters here and I disagree.
Source: Browns' Myles Garrett points to '13 Antonio Smith ban during appeal
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Cleveland Browns star Myles Garrett used a precedent-based argument on Wednesday during his suspension appeal hearing, citing the NFL's punishment for a former Houston Texans player in 2013, a source told ESPN's Dan Graziano.
Five days after being suspended indefinitely for ripping off Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Mason Rudolph's helmet and clubbing him in the head with it, Garrett and the NFLPA met with league officials Wednesday morning in New York.
Garrett and the NFLPA contended, the source told Graziano, that the worst punishment any player received for a similar incident was Houston's Antonio Smith, who was suspended in 2013 for two preseason games and one regular-season game for swinging his helmet at then-Dolphins offensive lineman Richie Incognito.
The NFL suspended Garrett for the remainder of this season, including any potential postseason games, and announced last Friday that he will have to meet with the commissioner's office before being reinstated for 2020.
Garrett argued that six games -- the remainder of the regular season -- is excessive under the precedent established by Smith's suspension, especially because Smith missed only one game check since players aren't paid for preseason games, the source told Graziano.
Garrett and the NFLPA also argued that an indefinite suspension is not permitted under the league's collective bargaining agreement, according to the source.
Meanwhile, a representative of the Steelers joined Maurkice Pouncey's appeal hearing by phone Tuesday in support of the center, who was suspended three games.
A source told Graziano that the Steelers believe Pouncey received the three-game ban in order to avoid his playing in the Week 13 rematch against the Browns.
According to Graziano, Pouncey's side contends that no other on-field fight in NFL history has resulted in a suspension longer than one game, so that would have been an appropriate punishment.
Even if reduced from three games to two on appeal, Pouncey's suspension would run through the Steelers' second game against the Browns.
[rest of article is fluff quotes from coaches]
You were saying?not to say "i told you so" too much buuuut...
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...es-garrett-points-13-antonio-smith-ban-appeal
Cleveland Browns defensive end Myles Garrett's indefinite suspension has been upheld and Pittsburgh Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey's ban has been reduced to two games following appeals, the NFL announced Thursday.
The Garrett decision, made by appeals officer James Thrash, means he will be suspended without pay for at least the remainder of the 2019 season. Garrett will have to meet with the commissioner's office before being reinstated
the commissioner handing out excessive suspensions in bad faith that go well beyond precedent that he knows are violations of the CBA and will be overturned is almost certainly illegal.
of course precedent matters. you can't just give a guy a punishment that's more than triple as long as what's been given for similar acts in the past. especially not when the players are in a union and protected by a CBA.
a judge in a court of law can't just arbitrarily decide to throw someone in jail for 25 years for common assault if the precedent is that sentences for assault are around 18-36 months. this is not really any different.
not to say "i told you so" too much buuuut...
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...es-garrett-points-13-antonio-smith-ban-appeal
K cool. Nobody was talking about Pouncey.one was reduced on precedent and the other one wasn't. neither of us are right or wrong