Doppelgang said:
u2 decided to have fans form 2 lines? even on second added show dates? hmmmm, i would like to see proof of that one as it seems to negate the idea of having an elipse lottery, although it would explain the reason .com are trying to manipulate the line on both days, caravan psychosis and monetary pathos
Doppelgang, at both NJ shows, venue security -- using huge signs (blinking and all) -- directed ppl into two lines, one was a fanclub line and the other was a non-fanclub line. The caravan did not create the split. Both shows, however, were shows with pre-sales.
The fanclub line was let in before the non-fanclub line. Irrespective of whether there was a pre-sale or not, allowing fanclub members in first is ultimately fair to the fanclub members who spent the $40 on the membership. BTW, being let in first did NOT guarantee ellipse entry. Rather, it simply guaranteed a better position outside the ellipse if you lost in the Vertigo lottery.
With that said, if the "caravaners" have been manipulating the system to their own gain, then that's a damn shame. I believe in the lottery, for the lottery provides everyone the best chance to get into the ellipse. It also prevents the "caravaners" from getting into the ellipse for every single show unless they incredibly win the lottery each time (in that case, they should be in vegas, and not at a U2 concert!).
Also, I am "edge2u" on Zootopia, and I have been updating the "same faces in the pit" thread there. As for why I posted "end of ishtory," there was a somewhat open question as to why U2 imposed the lottery in the first place. Bono's answer to DF's question, I believe, provides the answer to the open question.
Although this may be a bit way too late in the day, the only thing I'd change about the lottery system itself is that I believe that pre-sale GA tickets should be given priority admittance into the ellipse. It should be lottery for everyone else. (This only works IF there were less than 200 pairs of pre-sale GA tickets sold. Otherwise, there would be no need for a lottery if only presale GA's were allowed admittance into the ellipse. Check out my Zootopia posts in the above-noted thread for more.)