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verte76 said:I'm going to a performance of some Turkish Whirling Dervishes tonight! Yes, they are in Birmingham!
good for you
homeland security
barred them before
i am glad they got in.
enjoy
verte76 said:I'm going to a performance of some Turkish Whirling Dervishes tonight! Yes, they are in Birmingham!
Because many people believe that marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Why upset those people when you can still give equal rights to gay couples? I think both sides are hung up on the word marriage, although I believe it's between a man and a woman.Irvine511 said:
why? what's the hang-up over that single word -- "marriage"?
i applaud your support of civil unions, but why fussing over what we call it?
verte76 said:
There's no way the statement would have been put out without the Pope's approval.
nbcrusader said:
Really? With a frail, hospitalized pontif, I would not be surprised by a small group underscoring policy with such pronouncements.
Dreadsox said:The statement was from his new book......
not the vatican....
Dreadsox said:The statement was from his new book......
not the vatican....
melon said:
...after all, Henry VIII created the Church of England solely to allow him to divorce Catherine of Aragon...
Melon
intedomine said:Pope is a moron
ZeroDude said:This is the kind of thing that denies me hope for all of mankind, yes what the pope said may have been wrong imo but you and anyone else in this thread who personally attacked the man is no better, has he not done many good deeds aswell though, tell me he hasn',t more than you have probably, I mean we cannot take the moral high ground over him at all,
melon said:
Here's the difference: the "Pope" and the entire Vatican, for that matter, almost literally put themselves one step above man and one step below God. So when they talk, they don't talk in "opinion." No, they claim to represent "God's will."
When I hear such an arrogant old man speak vile and hateful things, I have every goddamn right to call him on it, because you know what? He does the same exact thing on a regular basis.
I lament the fact that the shit that Poop spouts off on a regular basis is the reason I left the Catholic Church. When he dies, I will not mourn his death.
Melon
ZeroDude said:^
Fair enough it's just the vibe I got from this thread that most people were pointlessly bashing the pope with personal attacks which is just childish anyone with good arguements et al fair play what he said was wrong, sorry for wasting time then
BonoVoxSupastar said:"Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away. "
ZeroDude said:To Melon
I'm sorry but your coming across as an arrogant person yourself and when you make arguements your points don't seem to be greatly validated by describing the situation as the Poop spouting shit. It seems to me ridiculous that we're in my opinion turning the tables on the world religions and judging them from the outside and at this we'll end up like them contradictory and foolish, it's all a bit of a vicious circle really and I'd like to have everyone at peace but we'll stop ourselves so it seems
FullonEdge2 said:Um hello? The Bible condemns homosexuality!
If you're not a Christian, then that's fine, but if you are, I don't see what your argument is.
ZeroDude said:
This is the kind of thing that denies me hope for all of mankind, yes what the pope said may have been wrong imo but you and anyone else in this thread who personally attacked the man is no better, has he not done many good deeds aswell though, tell me he hasn',t more than you have probably, I mean we cannot take the moral high ground over him at all,
I believe there is a mindset here to see who can be the biggest liberal, I'm not against any group of people except those who are purely ignorant against others, I'd defend the someone who is a decent human no matter be they straight, gay, man, woman or transexual, I find that many here need to look beyond some people archaic believes to see that a good human being essentially is there, sure how I can preach I'm far from perfect but alot of you are being purely reactionary for a reason you feel the need to conform to, hey maybe how the old hate the sin not the sinner here
I'm sorry for those you have keep this civil incase I create an arguement but un needed bashing is not a good thing, I don't agree with any arguement against same sex marraige but I felt the need to speak here
not ignorance, just the opposite. he thinks he knows all because he is the pope, therefore, we evaluate his stupidity and bigotry and come to the conclusion that he's a phony. ghandi wasn't a prick by the way. you should know better than to make that call.ZeroDude said:I'm sorry if I was generalising but I've done it myself trying to be the bigger liberal than the next guy which is pure stupidity, I'd expect to be flamed biblicly for sugguesting that sort of thing but I find it true and people who proclaim the pope is an asshole is pure ignorance, I'm certain they might of thought of Ghandi as a prick