Random Music Talk CXXIII: Cilantro Lover's Club

[Mack_Again]

yeah traffics in Chicago is batshit crazy, the city has to do something about it, definitely. but again, LA and other places are awful too, so I don't know about that one.

 

[lazarus]

Brisket is all we have left

When Bono is at the table, there is none left.

A basket of fries show up on the doorstep

You BBQ because you can't accept

 

[Mack_Again]

Some people might’ve talked about this already but new Disclosure track is so good

 

[u2popmofo]

Happy Memorial Day, American friends. Hope you enjoyed your day off with good music and good times! I just cooked a bunch of delicious vegetables and meats on my grill, listening to the new Stephen Malkmus now. Fun day.

 

[bono_212]

yeah traffics in Chicago is batshit crazy, the city has to do something about it, definitely. but again, LA and other places are awful too, so I don't know about that one.

Traffic isn't really a major issue in Chicago, not to the extent of other major cities in the US. I don't even think it's top ten. Having decent public transport helps. I think Diemen was referring to how bad traffic is in Boston.

Edit: Chicago comes in 8th according to one article I just checked. Right ahead of Seattle and Dallas. *shudder* Dallas traffic...

 

[u2popmofo]

Human traffic leaving Soldier field comes in at #1 worst in the nation, ask Joyful!

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Having left Chicago midday at the beginning of the long weekend, I didn't notice any particularly horrific traffic. Of course that's just one experience, but I've had routine bad experiences with traffic in (1) Boston coming into the city from the north, (2) New York (going in any direction possible, but particularly on the Long Island Expressway, (3) in and out of DC depending upon if it's morning or evening and (4) Miami on 95.

I didn't live in Houston city, but I didn't find the traffic reputation when going into the city to be as bad as it was known for. It was more just slow and sluggish, but nothing like the cities I mentioned otherwise.

 

[Diemen]

Traffic isn't really a major issue in Chicago, not to the extent of other major cities in the US. I don't even think it's top ten. Having decent public transport helps. I think Diemen was referring to how bad traffic is in Boston.

No, I was definitely referring to Chicago. Not a real issue? Boy do I beg to differ. I worked an early morning job that took me a little less than thirty minutes to get to. The trip home, around noon, could take anywhere from 45min to two hours, and there didn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason why. Rush hour was ridiculous - easily twice to 4x the travel time, even on city streets, but traffic could be just as bad at 10am, or noon, or 8pm.

I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for almost 10 years, and Chicago for 3. Traffic in Chicago felt just as congested but way less predictable.

 

[lazarus]

Happy Memorial Day, American friends. Hope you enjoyed your day off with good music and good times! I just cooked a bunch of delicious vegetables and meats on my grill, listening to the new Stephen Malkmus now. Fun day.

I still haven't heard it.

 

[iron yuppie]

No, I was definitely referring to Chicago. Not a real issue? Boy do I beg to differ.

Yeah Chicago traffic is hellish, especially on Thursdays and Fridays when seemingly every one of the 3 million residents is on the road. It doesn't help that major construction projects in the Loop area have been going on for four years now. And the major local streets can be just as bad as the highways, if not worse.

 

[Hewson]

... unless you have to use the freeways to get to work.

I think Diemen was referring to how bad traffic is in Boston.

...

Easy way to know Diemen wasn't referring to Boston.

We don't use the term "Freeway" for any of the roads here.

Its either a highway, "the Pike" (Mass Turnpike aka I-90), or "the Expressway" (the not aptly named stretch of Rt. 93 that runs from the city south to the "split" between Rt. 3 and Rt. 128_

We also don't use "the" before route numbers like you crazies out west. So whereas you take "the 405 to the 5", I take "93 north to 128 south to 3 north"

Random road talk.

 

[cobl04]

How many of you have tried to get in and out of the Rose Bowl? Fuck me dead I've never done anything so infuriating in all my life.

 

[U2inUtah]

Yeah I thought LA area was always consensus #1 for traffic. I've sat on the 405 for several hours crawling through Orange County on a Friday night.

I'm giving Viva La Vida a listen since it came out about exactly ten years ago. It's still the last thing I really liked from Coldplay.

 

[bono_212]

No, I was definitely referring to Chicago. Not a real issue? Boy do I beg to differ. I worked an early morning job that took me a little less than thirty minutes to get to. The trip home, around noon, could take anywhere from 45min to two hours, and there didn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason why. Rush hour was ridiculous - easily twice to 4x the travel time, even on city streets, but traffic could be just as bad at 10am, or noon, or 8pm.

I lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for almost 10 years, and Chicago for 3. Traffic in Chicago felt just as congested but way less predictable.

Compared to LA and NYC/Boston/DC? I just don't see it as being as insane. I haven't had to commute in Chicago, really, though, and have always been able to just take public transportation instead of dealing with the traffic wherever I wanted to go, so there's that, to be perfectly honest. It's just not one of THE cities that comes up for traffic, hence why I thought there was no way you'd be referring to it in the context of that statement.

Easy way to know Diemen wasn't referring to Boston.

We don't use the term "Freeway" for any of the roads here.

Random road talk.

To be fair, we don't use Freeway in the midwest, either. IIRC, Diemen isn't from there originally .

Yeah I thought LA area was always consensus #1 for traffic. I've sat on the 405 for several hours crawling through Orange County on a Friday night.

I'm giving Viva La Vida a listen since it came out about exactly ten years ago. It's still the last thing I really liked from Coldplay.

LA is hell on earth all day every day. At least in Chicago there's plenty of times I've just flown in, got where I needed to be and got back out with no problem, but as I mentioned above, I was rarely dealing with the suburbs.

 

[bono_212]

What the hell is up with the RYM score for the new CHVRCHES album? Thing is super fun, and in the exact same vein as their first two albums. Can't understand what would warrant such a hugely negative response.

 

[cobl04]

I'm giving Viva La Vida a listen since it came out about exactly ten years ago. It's still the last thing I really liked from Coldplay.

Still a great, great record, and yes, their last really good one.

Strawberry Swing is all-time. Very few artists have written a song as beautiful as Strawberry Swing.

 

[IWasBored]

Denver traffic is bullshit because no one knows how to merge, and no one seems to live in the same part of town they work in. Between 6-9am and 3-7pm you’re better off cutting through 3 towns to get to your destination. worst case it takes the same amount of time sitting on the highway going 15 mph would, but at least you’re moving.

Easy way to know Diemen wasn't referring to Boston.



We don't use the term "Freeway" for any of the roads here.



Its either a highway, "the Pike" (Mass Turnpike aka I-90), or "the Expressway" (the not aptly named stretch of Rt. 93 that runs from the city south to the "split" between Rt. 3 and Rt. 128_



We also don't use "the" before route numbers like you crazies out west. So whereas you take "the 405 to the 5", I take "93 north to 128 south to 3 north"



Random road talk.

Someone from out of state referred to the Pike as I-90 one time and I just stared at them like they had 2 heads.

People here refer to highways as freeways and call highways the long 1-2 lane roads that they didn’t bother to name that cut through nothing between towns highways, which is nonsense and I refuse to conform to their bizarre western speak (and insist on calling I-25 “25” or highway 93 “93.”) But at least there’s no “the” in front of the numbers.

 

[corianderstem]

I love Frank Ocean's cover of Strawberry Swing. (And also love that Coldplay album.)

 

[Mack_Again]

What the hell is up with the RYM score for the new CHVRCHES album? Thing is super fun, and in the exact same vein as their first two albums. Can't understand what would warrant such a hugely negative response.

tbh I didnt really like the album, so I don't know, I kinda agree. it seems like they're making their music progressively poppier without going into new musical directions, and im a bit bored by it.

 

[martha]

LA is hell on earth all day every day.

I was going to mention how the complaining was kind of cute.

 

[iron yuppie]

To be fair, we don't use Freeway in the midwest, either. IIRC, Diemen isn't from there originally.

Growing up in Cleveland we called them freeways. Must be a local dialect, liked steamed hams.

 

[Axver]

Easy way to know Diemen wasn't referring to Boston.

We don't use the term "Freeway" for any of the roads here.

Its either a highway, "the Pike" (Mass Turnpike aka I-90), or "the Expressway" (the not aptly named stretch of Rt. 93 that runs from the city south to the "split" between Rt. 3 and Rt. 128_

We also don't use "the" before route numbers like you crazies out west. So whereas you take "the 405 to the 5", I take "93 north to 128 south to 3 north"

Random road talk.

You Americans and your numbers. This is actually a problem with Australia on Google Maps. Numbers are used very rarely. A lot of arterial roads do have some state number, but nobody knows them and they often aren't on the signs. They're for planning/admin purposes, not for daily use. Google Maps, however, badges the road with them and you often have to zoom in quite some way to find out the actual road name. I decided to find an example, and it turns out the road on which I have lived for almost a year has a route number, which I have never seen. I had to zoom in to the level with property boundaries to see the actual street name that literally everybody in Wollongong uses. If you posted a letter to me with the route number rather than the street name I'm honestly unsure if it would even arrive.

What the hell is up with the RYM score for the new CHVRCHES album? Thing is super fun, and in the exact same vein as their first two albums. Can't understand what would warrant such a hugely negative response.

Oh shit it's out! I knew there was something new from last week that I forgot to listen to. Been enjoying the Hatchie and Totty EPs.

Growing up in Cleveland we called them freeways. Must be a local dialect, liked steamed hams.

 

[cobl04]

regional*

 

[HeartlandGirl]

How many of you have tried to get in and out of the Rose Bowl? Fuck me dead I've never done anything so infuriating in all my life.

The drive to and from the Rose Bowl with NSW was almost as memorable as the U2 show. Good Lord, it was harrowing.

Atlanta has terrible traffic too. All those lanes and no one going anywhere.

And now I want to listen to Stereophonics.

 

[Moonlit_Angel]

I'm giving Viva La Vida a listen since it came out about exactly ten years ago. It's still the last thing I really liked from Coldplay.

...holy shit, it really has been that long. Damn.

But yes. Favorite album from them, hands down.

 

[kabigon]

You Americans and your numbers. This is actually a problem with Australia on Google Maps. Numbers are used very rarely. A lot of arterial roads do have some state number, but nobody knows them and they often aren't on the signs. They're for planning/admin purposes, not for daily use. Google Maps, however, badges the road with them and you often have to zoom in quite some way to find out the actual road name. I decided to find an example, and it turns out the road on which I have lived for almost a year has a route number, which I have never seen. I had to zoom in to the level with property boundaries to see the actual street name that literally everybody in Wollongong uses. If you posted a letter to me with the route number rather than the street name I'm honestly unsure if it would even arrive.

The only route number I ever refer to is the M420.

(M = freeway, you've got numbers such as M1, M3, M11 and then a big jump to 420 for some reason. Now why would that be hmm....)

 

[cobl04]

Much like everything else, we are better and simpler and smarter than the Americans.

Freeway - major road in suburban / urban areas. Usually many lanes.

Highway - major road in regional / rural areas. Usually only a couple lanes and connects towns.

All called by names.

M1, M8, M80 are all I know but I still also call them by Princes and Western.

Also, in Australia, the signs on our freeways & highways show the distance to towns. This is not as common in America I've found... infuriatingly you mostly seem to have signs that show the distance to the next exit road. And it's in fractions cos you're all idiots still using the fucking Imperial system.

 

[Axver]

The M1 is literally the only one I know or have heard in common conversation.

Apparently Sydney Road is some sort of route 55. Who knew?

Nice to know the number 55 lives on in Brunswick though after the West Coburg tram morphed into the 58 and gained the Toorak toff appendage.

 

[Axver]

Oh I think I've heard Sydneysiders talk about the M4 and other low M numbers but fucking Sydney. I say AFL, you say NR-PUNCHED IN THE FUCKING FACE.

 

[Hewson]

You Americans and your numbers. This is actually a problem with Australia on Google Maps. Numbers are used very rarely. A lot of arterial roads do have some state number, but nobody knows them and they often aren't on the signs. They're for planning/admin purposes, not for daily use. Google Maps, however, badges the road with them and you often have to zoom in quite some way to find out the actual road name. I decided to find an example, and it turns out the road on which I have lived for almost a year has a route number, which I have never seen. I had to zoom in to the level with property boundaries to see the actual street name that literally everybody in Wollongong uses. If you posted a letter to me with the route number rather than the street name I'm honestly unsure if it would even arrive.

When your entire country consists of only one dirt road ("roado" in Aussie speak) that connects the East Fosters Brewery to the West Fosters Brewery, you probably don't need route numbers.