cobl04
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Or maybe you're the only one who cares and keeps preventing the rest of us from having mindless fun playing shuttlecock.
You already used the word lightly...why so serious now?
http://www.u2interference.com/forums/f287/shuttlecock-217073-4.html#post7835377Can you direct me to the thread? Maybe I am being hyper critical. Maybe not.
The gag is not the word rape. The gag is Bono's pronunciation.
Or maybe you're the only one who cares and keeps preventing the rest of us from having mindless fun playing shuttlecock.
Stephen Fry said:“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."
Ehhh, I think it's best summed up like this: rape jokes aren't funny, but the word rape being in a joke isn't in and of itself a rape joke.The Mario games condone mercilessly squishing animals underneath a weighty Italian's frame. How dare we advocate gore.
Political correctness is a term used to censor contentious issues, and I think is an inherently bad term, because of the importance of freedom of discussion. Censorship is also very harmful in regards to the healing from these acts - people who are affected by violence often make a lot of jokes about it in the process of their own healing, and are often most harmed not by the public debates surrounding these acts. Instead, they are profoundly harmed by an inability to speak about their experience and examine representations of their experience in the public sphere. By sitting there and saying "I am offended by the use of the word rape, please stop saying it" you marginalise and diminutise the experience of those who were raped.
I have a mixed opinion regarding Stephen Fry, but one of the best things he's ever said relates to the idea of being offended by words.
When you sit there and say you are offended by phrase x or y, you are merely saying "that phrase is challenging to my moral view"; nothing more. Discussions of an important nature should be had, and they should challenge your moral views! If that wasn't the case, things that were seen as morally correct 200 years ago (such as slavery) would still be in force, because [white, middle class] people would regard the idea of talking to people who are not of the same race we are as offensive.
There's been a stunning protest in Columbia University in the past month. You can something about it here. This a confronting display. There is something incredibly powerful and beautiful about it. If you were to sit there and say "oh, I'm offended by this protest because it uses the word rape" you are not getting the message it's putting across; that silencing people is incredibly harmful and leads to the further perpetuation of these acts.
The Mario games condone mercilessly squishing animals underneath a weighty Italian's frame. How dare we advocate gore.
Political correctness is a term used to censor contentious issues, and I think is an inherently bad term, because of the importance of freedom of discussion. Censorship is also very harmful in regards to the healing from these acts - people who are affected by violence often make a lot of jokes about it in the process of their own healing, and are often most harmed not by the public debates surrounding these acts. Instead, they are profoundly harmed by an inability to speak about their experience and examine representations of their experience in the public sphere. By sitting there and saying "I am offended by the use of the word rape, please stop saying it" you marginalise and diminutise the experience of those who were raped.
I have a mixed opinion regarding Stephen Fry, but one of the best things he's ever said relates to the idea of being offended by words.
When you sit there and say you are offended by phrase x or y, you are merely saying "that phrase is challenging to my moral view"; nothing more. Discussions of an important nature should be had, and they should challenge your moral views! If that wasn't the case, things that were seen as morally correct 200 years ago (such as slavery) would still be in force, because [white, middle class] people would regard the idea of talking to people who are not of the same race we are as offensive.
There's been a stunning protest in Columbia University in the past month. You can something about it here. This a confronting display. There is something incredibly powerful and beautiful about it. If you were to sit there and say "oh, I'm offended by this protest because it uses the word rape" you are not getting the message it's putting across; that silencing people is incredibly harmful and leads to the further perpetuation of these acts.
Ehhh, I think it's best summed up like this: rape jokes aren't funny, but the word rape being in a joke isn't in and of itself a rape joke.
Stop with the false equivalencies. Rape is violence against women. And yes I get the gag...sorry your gag isn't funny at this point and you know it. Like I said...give me snippet where it ACTUALLY sounds like Bono saying the word RAPED. It's not there...except in whoever came up with this sad thread. You could of HEARD other words. Or used OTHER songs. But since you find the word raped to be interpreted in another way...carry on.
I never said it was a rape joke. I said it was a disgusting word that shouldn't be taken lightly.
Well then, please provide us with a comprehensive list of words that are not to be used in anything but the most serious of terms? Murder is pretty bad, too. Are we allowed to say that?
Murder is prosecuted. Rape is ignored or made light of. You are free to say whatever you want.
This thread stinks.
When are they going to play this stuff live
Of all the places to take a stand on this issue you decided on a music thread on what is a liberal forum with people universally on board with the very cause you think is somehow under attack. This is incredible to me.
Probably when they go on tour.
Liberals rape also. And I never meant to fight tooth and nail about this...but of course I must. I never said whoever started this shuttlecock didn't have a right to. But when they used the word raped...didn't that invite comments? I have only commented from the start that I HATE the word raped and find it repugnant. So I guess I was like if I can't have fun neither can you. I apologize for that. Have fun.
Liberals rape also. And I never meant to fight tooth and nail about this...but of course I must. I never said whoever started this shuttlecock didn't have a right to. But when they used the word raped...didn't that invite comments? I have only commented from the start that I HATE the word raped and find it repugnant. So I guess I was like if I can't have fun neither can you. I apologize for that. Have fun.