How would you feel if Larry or Adam needed a fill in?

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So Kings of Leon cancelled 10 shows or something because drummer Nathan Followill needs time to recover from a tour bus accident which broke his ribs. I was going to be at one of these shows. There will be no rescheduling. If they really can't find time to reschedule these shows, what would've been the harm of using a replacement drummer for 2 weeks or whatever? I certainly wouldn't have minded.

I've seen Aerosmith with a fill in bass player, because Tom Hamilton was undergoing treatment for his cancer. While I think everyone prefers to see the full, original lineup, that is a very understandable reason for him to miss the gig, and I'm sure nobody enjoyed the show any less. Same for the Kings of Leon drummer. If it's between canceling the shows and never rescheduling them, or playing with a fill in for 2 weeks, I think most people would take the fill in.

Obviously a U2 gig MUST have Bono and The Edge. While Larry and Adam definitely have their own unique styles, they can be emulated. If Adam or Larry were in a position where they had to take some time off, I don't think I'd mind if they used a stand in, rather than cancel/postpone the shows. Would you guys mind?

The difference between U2 and KOL is that U2 would reschedule their shows. Between the pigeon shit incident of 2010, the cancelled and not rescheduled US tour in 2011 and now these 10 shows not being rescheduling, KOL seem to be set on committing career suicide. Most of the venues they cancelled in were also cancelled in 2011, and in the case of Pittsburgh, they cancelled their shows there in 2010, 2011 and 2014, same venue. Talk about throwing it all away!

Other than Raleigh in 1997, have U2 ever outright cancelled a concert? I think there was a show in Champaign, IL Zoo TV that instead was consolidated to a 3rd Chicago show, due to poor ticket sales in Champaign, but that all those ticket holders were allowed to transfer their tickets to the 3rd Chicago show.
 
I wouldn't care.

It's not as if the first Sydney ZooTV show, the one without Adam, was a disaster in any way.
 
I wouldn't care.

It's not as if the first Sydney ZooTV show, the one without Adam, was a disaster in any way.

Just think, that was 21 years ago. Nobody has missed a show since. Sure a tour was postponed because of Bono's back injury, but I think every date was made up. Folks are paying good money to see all 4 of the boys.
 
I think there was a show in Champaign, IL Zoo TV that instead was consolidated to a 3rd Chicago show, due to poor ticket sales in Champaign

I didn't know that. I've got a bunch of relatives in Champaign. I'll have to get on them for this.:shame:
 
Just think, that was 21 years ago. Nobody has missed a show since. Sure a tour was postponed because of Bono's back injury, but I think every date was made up. Folks are paying good money to see all 4 of the boys.

I promise you the majority of the crowd don't even know the names of U2's bassist or drummer, nor do they care that the band have not had a personnel change in their history (and wouldn't care if there had been one).
 
I promise you the majority of the crowd don't even know the names of U2's bassist or drummer, nor do they care that the band have not had a personnel change in their history.


Good Lord. :doh: That isn't just partial horeshit. That is complete horseshit. I would say that the majority of fans in attendance know all 4 members. If 82,000 fans show up, at least 50,000 of them know all 4 members.
 
I would understand if they couldn't postpone or cancel a show for whatever reason. I would be disappointed if it happened at the show I attended, but I won't be outraged. I've already gone through a postponement, and I would prefer that, but I'm in the minority.
 
Good Lord. :doh: That isn't just partial horeshit. That is complete horseshit. I would say that the majority of fans in attendance know all 4 members. If 82,000 fans show up, at least 50,000 of them know all 4 members.

I don't know about that. I bet a large contingent of casual fans wouldn't even know Edge by name.
I've taken my wife to 6 U2 concerts over the years, I can guarantee if I asked her right now she can't name Adam or Larry and would definitely not notice if Adam were replaced on stage by the likes of Jeff Ament if she goes to a show on the upcoming 2019 world tour.
 
I've taken concertgoers like that into consideration. I still believe the majority of them would know all 4. Now I'm gonna have to start polling fans at the next show. :lol:
 
Trying to compile a list of shows that have been cancelled or postponed from each tour.

360- The entire 2010 North American tour was postponed until 2011, as was their Glastonbury gig, due to Bono's back surgery.

Vertigo- The Aus/NZ/Japan/Hawaii leg was delayed from March/April to Nov/Dec, because of Edge's daughter's illness.

Elevation- None, although a planned (but never announced) 2002 stadium tour of Europe and South America never happened.

Popmart-
- Raleigh was cancelled due to the screen being damaged. Not sure why they couldn't have rescheduled this, even if they did only sell 20,000 tickets.
- 2nd Philadelphia show on June 9th was cancelled due to low ticket sales.
- Show in Indianapolis was announced for November 19th, but was never put on sale.

OTHER INTERESTING POPMART TIDBITS:
- Additional dates were supposed to be happen in Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia, New York City, London, Rotterdam, London, Paris, Sydney, Melbourne and Tokyo, with NYC planning for as many as 5 shows! Demand wasn't what they hoped it would be, and these extra shows never happened.
- Promotors were trying to get a show in Basel, Switzerland in the week between the Rotterdam and Werchter shows, but that didn't work out. Then, management was trying to get U2 to play Basel instead of Sarajevo on Sept 23, because it made sense from a financial standpoint, but Sarajevo was U2's pet cause and they made a promise.
- Popmart was also supposed to go to New Zealand, Southeast Asia, Hawaii and Egypt, according to my tour program that I'm looking at.

Lovetown:
- Due to Bono's illness, 2 cancelled shows in Amsterdam became 4 shows in Rotterdam in January 1990.
- Wasn't there a show cancelled at the Point Depot on either the 28th or 29th of December?
- Some of the Sydney shows had to be rescheduled due to illness.

Unforgettable Fire Tour: In October 1984, U2 cancelled or postponed a bunch of shows in Europe. Among the cancelled was a show in Barcelona, which would've been their first Spanish show.

War Tour: Wichita concert was cancelled because of the Red Rocks rain date in Boulder being added.

That's all I can think of. I know it's a tiny bit off topic but I just suddenly became very curious as to how many shows have U2 actually cancelled vs. postponed.
 
If I had been in the audience at that first Sydney show on ZOO TV, and saw that it was Stuart Morgan onstage instead of Adam, I would've thought "oh shit, hope Adam's okay, but this guy seems like he can do the job for now" and I would've enjoyed the show regardless.
 
That would be awesome if someone replaced Bono for one night.


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If I had been in the audience at that first Sydney show on ZOO TV, and saw that it was Stuart Morgan onstage instead of Adam, I would've thought "oh shit, hope Adam's okay, but this guy seems like he can do the job for now" and I would've enjoyed the show regardless.

Of course I'd still enjoy the show, but they would still be missed. I guess if I smoked enough weed before the show, I wouldn't give a fuck.
 
One of our group that went to the Pittsburgh show in 2011 is a casual fan. I had to explain to him "Adam has gray hair and plays bass; Larry has dark hair and plays drums." He also never knew that U2 was only 4 members, he figured they at least had a keyboardist too. He was only more confused when I tried to explain to him that they do have a keyboard player who is not really a member of the band… and that he plays under the stage where nobody can see him...
 
I think it's pretty obvious that our eon personal experiences are driving our opinions regarding the % of fans that know all the band name members.




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At their age, there's no shame in having to see the dentist now and then for some work.


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Wait?! Rock stars see dentists and Larry has dark hair?

wtf?! My whole life has been flipped upside down. Can someone help?


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Wait?! Rock stars see dentists and Larry has dark hair?

wtf?! My whole life has been flipped upside down. Can someone help?


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Rumor has it that Bono came up with the "mouth full of teeth" lyric while in the dentist chair.


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That would be awesome if someone replaced Bono for one night.


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I seem to remember reading somewhere that Brian Eno was prepared to replace Bono on vocals when his voice crashed on the PopMart Sarajevo night, but somehow I'm not sure if that story is true.
 
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Brian Eno was prepared to replace Bono on vocals when his voice crashed on the PopMart Sarajevo night, but somehow I'm not sure if that story is true.

Annnd now I'm reading your posts in Rickman's voice. Excellent.
 
I think it's pretty obvious that our eon personal experiences are driving our opinions regarding the % of fans that know all the band name members.

That's so true. Most "casual" fans I know certainly don't know the name of Adam and Larry. Some even don't know Edge. I don't think that casual fans or music lovers don't care much for the names of band members, except maybe the singer who's usually the most popular one.

As for the specific question of this thread, personally I wouldn't want to see the band play with any of the four members missing, but that's just me, it would kind of make me sad and wouldn't feel like a real U2 show. I'm sure many others wouldn't care about it.
 
On top of the fact that no one has any idea who Larry or Adam are, both parts they play are that simple I'm sure it wouldn't be very hard. I wouldn't give a fuck.
 
To most concertgoers, U2 is Boner and The Hedge and they sing the classic hits Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah and Oh Oh Oh Ohhhhh.
 

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