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Old 07-24-2003, 04:28 AM   #21
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I believe that in life we have the free choice to accept the good news spread by jesus christ
(no matter what you do, you will never be good enough to get into heaven by our own doings - it's much easier, we have to accept jesus as the saviour - if we do that and let jesus enter our heart we will automatically do good things, but they are not the basis for getting into heaven).

So i believe when we die we will kind of "sleep" . When Jesus comes to earth the 2nd time he will take the ones who accepted him to eternal life, the others will simply die forever (no torture, hell or something like that)

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So i believe when we die we will kind of "sleep" . When Jesus comes to earth the 2nd time he will take the ones who accepted him to eternal life, the others will simply die forever (no torture, hell or something like that)

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bad news for the ones that did not get the voice mail
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well i guess he will make sure that everyone gets the chance to hear voice mail ;-) even if some of them never heared words like "Jesus" "God"
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Klaus, you more or less expressed my thoughts. At least, after a lot of study, that's where I've been led to believe seems the most plausible at the moment.
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Being not very religious, the only answer I can give is that we need to live our lives to the fullest now in the present, and then when we pass on whatever happens will happen...

I cannot prepare for that now, nor will I spend my life living a certain way just in case I will be judged after I die.

Now I am not saying that I am going to go out and be evil, but I think if there is a higher being, the life we have now is what we need to pay attention to and use to our advantage, as well as the advantage of others. This is what that higher being would have wanted, and that is why we have the opportunity to do so.
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You're exactly right. Who I was before, my sin nature, was crucified with Christ, and I was raised to newness of life In Christ. I will not die again. My flesh will perish, but that's just the vessel that contains my spirit...my "jar of clay". Who I really am-my spirit-will live eternally.
I have a question...When I use the term "born again" I think of someone who lived a life and then discover Christ later on in their life, they repent and become "born again". You say you will not die again, now is that a personal statement or is that a universal statement for "born agains". What if you fall from your walk and turn your back on God? Is it possible to die twice?

My other question is a person who was raised in the church all their life, grew up believing and following God...they are obviously sinners but never made that life altering turn around in their life because it was always there. When do they die?
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I have a question...When I use the term "born again" I think of someone who lived a life and then discover Christ later on in their life, they repent and become "born again". You say you will not die again, now is that a personal statement or is that a universal statement for "born agains". What if you fall from your walk and turn your back on God? Is it possible to die twice?

My other question is a person who was raised in the church all their life, grew up believing and following God...they are obviously sinners but never made that life altering turn around in their life because it was always there. When do they die?
Two excellent questions.

1. Can you lose your salvation? There is nothing in Scripture to support the idea that you can lose your salvation. Once we are justified before God through His grace, it is not taken away. Sure, we can stumble, walk away, get angry with God, sin (more), or backslide (the Baptist's term), but we never lose our place with God.

There are two elements that go with this. First, you must hve truly accepted Jesus and Lord and Savior. It is a confession with the mouth and a belief in the heart. If it is the mouth alone, you may fool your neighbor, but you won't fool God. Another element is that we do suffer when we fall from our walk. Our sanctification (the process which makes us more like Christ) slows down or stops. God spends our lives molding us into His perfect image through trials, tribulations, teaching, service, etc.

2. When do those raised in the Church "die" and become born again? Every person must make their own decision to place their faith in Christ alone for salvation. Their parents can't do it for them. I know many people who grew up in the church, but never make that personal committment (until later in life). Church essentially becomes a good, wholesome learning/service/fun activity once a week (this is not unusual in any way, I know many who treat our church as a country club - a place to socialize with others).

On the other hand, there are many children who make this choice as they are growing up in the Church. This is one thing that is included in most children's or youth programs at a church.
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