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Old 01-10-2012, 12:30 AM   #141
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my mother was offended when i said i would have no issue arguing with the pope.
I'd like to see you do that . You'd win hands-down.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:21 AM   #142
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my mother was offended when i said i would have no issue arguing with the pope.
My parents flip out whenever I criticize the pope.
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Heh, that reminds me, when my dad was a teenager and had his hair longer, his mom freaked on him about cutting it before a church service or something once. He shot back with, "Oh, yeah, Mom, I'm sure the church wouldn't want to be associated with anyone with long hair."

She didn't really have a response to that .

I don't get why criticism of the Pope is so earth-shatteringly horrible. So he supposedly has a direct line to God. He's NOT God, he's still human, so he's not immune. It's like when I heard about the whole freakout when Sinead ripped up that picture of the Pope on "SNL". Really, people? You were that bothered? Man, if we got that outraged over stuff that actually was important (like, you know, the thing Sinead was actually protesting with that action), we could make some real headway in this world.

But again, all this is coming from a girl raised Protestant, so...
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My mother is old school, went to Catholic school and is still traditional in some ways. But socially and politically she is less conservative and definitely comparatively "liberal", especially for her age. I told her recently that I don't listen to a word the Pope says and she said "neither do I". It just felt awesome, frankly. She has her faults like everyone but it just made me proud and made me feel like she's "cool". In that way I'm proud to be like her, and I am so glad that she lets me express my views. I don't think she always likes it but I do anyway and she does listen.

Most people vastly overestimate the importance of the Pope to the majority of Catholics these days.
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The concept of following the words of a man instead of extrapolating from the Bible your own path...it's just absurd to me. By following the words of the Pope at the expense of self-evaluation and contrasting opinions, you're placing your faith in a man-made institution (one could argue the Christian faith is man-made, though I have differing opinions in that regard) that doesn't even reflect the actions of its membership anymore.

Yeah, I'll call bullshit on the Pope when his statements are diametrically opposed to Christian ideology, and his claims regarding homosexuality place him as far away from the teachings of Christ as you can be.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:43 AM   #146
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In Queensland, if you murder someone, you can get acquitted by using the "gay panic" defence. That is, if the person you murdered was the same sex and you think they were coming on to you, murder is justifiable
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If I ever form a skinhead hardcore punk band, I'm going to name them Gay Panic.
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In Queensland, if you murder someone, you can get acquitted by using the "gay panic" defence. That is, if the person you murdered was the same sex and you think they were coming on to you, murder is justifiable
The defense for the guys who killed Matthew Shepard was something along that line, too . It didn't work in their case, though, thankfully.
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If I ever form a skinhead hardcore punk band, I'm going to name them Gay Panic.
Too close to (Gay) Panic At The Disco
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Washington state needs one more State Senator to support a bill allowing gay marriage in order for it to become law- Washington would be the 7th state in the Union to do it.

Luckily one of the undecideds represents my district, so I gave his office a call today to politely bug him. 5 undecided Senators, only 1 needed to nail it down. Here's hoping!
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I was torn on Gregoire coming out in support of gay marriage. Yeah, that's all well and good, but she never bothered to do it when she was concerned about re-election.
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I was torn on Gregoire coming out in support of gay marriage. Yeah, that's all well and good, but she never bothered to do it when she was concerned about re-election.
Agreed. Still, I would not be surprised to find out that this seeming sudden surge towards gay marriage legality after years on the back burner was the product of a meticulous roll out plan/years of background cajoling of Senators, and Gregoire's announcement was probably designed to be the first salvo.
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Good going, mobvok . Here's hoping Washington goes forward with making this legal.
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OLYMPIA, Wash. — As lawmakers held their first public hearing on gay marriage, a Democratic senator on Monday announced her support for the measure, all but ensuring that Washington will become the seventh state to legalize same-sex marriage.

The announcement by Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen, D-Camano Island, that she would cast the 25th and deciding vote in favor of the issue came has hundreds of people filled the Capitol to advocate for and against gay marriage.

"I know this announcement makes me the so-called 25th vote, the vote that ensures passage," Haugen said in a statement. She said she took her time making up her mind to "to reconcile my religious beliefs with my beliefs as an American, as a legislator, and as a wife and mother who cannot deny to others the joys and benefits I enjoy. This is the right vote and it is the vote I will cast when this measure comes to the floor."

The state House is widely expected to have enough support to pass gay marriage, and Gov. Chris Gregoire publicly endorsed the proposal earlier this month. However opponents have already said they would challenge any new law with a public referendum.
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Washington state will be one of the few states to pass this legislatively, and after the inevitable public referendum placed on the fall ballot, polling suggests the population will be the first to uphold marriage equality via vote as well. woooooooooooot wooo
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Local News | Gay marriage in Washington: Legislature has the votes | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:33 PM   #159
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Huzzah! Go, Washington state . Welcome to the "legalize gay marriage" club.
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Oh man, I sure hope there is a Proposition 8, otherwise it will be activist legislation.
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