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Hinduism believes in the existence of avatars (as do other eastern relgions). And even jesus himself says " I and my father am one". So if he and his father are one?...doesn't that imply.......... |
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You said that Guth said the evidence shows that it COULD have come from nothing. That's one man's opinion. That's not hard evidence. He calims it as evidence but the fact that he used the word "could have" is in direct opposition to the word "evidence". In order to be scientific evidence, mustn't something be "observed"? When did someone observe a creation of something like this earth out of pure happenstance, no creative force behind it? Never. [This message has been edited by 80sU2isBest (edited 04-10-2002).] |
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But modern people like us understand more than the people 2000 years ago. We know that there is only one God and no human being can be God. When Jesus says I´m the son of God, he did that to emphazise his mission. |
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It is my understanding that Jesus was the Word made flesh--i.e., a Godman, a human incarnate of God. It doesn't get any closer to being God than that.
Where I differ with the Christian church is in their belief that Jesus was the only one, and I believe that God is bigger than that, that God so loves Its creation that It manifests itself to people of all cultures, throughout history, past present & future, with different faces, in many different ways. Or, as HeartlandGirl said, "I think in the end, we're all worshipping the same God, just in different ways, and we often get bogged down by the details." |
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everyone has different lives is it that inconcievable that we'd experience god in different ways? One size fits all is for hats and t shirts..not god
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Arun, I tried to explain this earlier. Yes, Jesus says that he´s the son of God, but as a lot of stories in the Bible, it´s just a metaphor. To show people his outstanding status amongst them. ------------------ I'm a bass player. That's a "singer" question. Lord Adam Clayton "The bass player's got it. The bass player's fucking got it." Bono, Boston 6-9-01 |
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Interesting thread. Nice to see everyone being civil about a topic that can get heated.
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one of the few civil threas in FYM history
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That may BE the Bahai, Hindu, and generally universalist view of Christ and His "stories," but those of us who are Messianic Christians DO believe in one Triune God - The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit, of which Jesus is The Son, based on His fulfillment of prophecy and events such as His virgin birth, the transfiguration, and the resurrection of His body after His cruciifxion and death. We do not consider those to be metaphorical. Thanks. ~U2Alabama |
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------------------ I'm a bass player. That's a "singer" question. Lord Adam Clayton "The bass player's got it. The bass player's fucking got it." Bono, Boston 6-9-01 |
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Now, I'd like to ask you another question: What is the value of living your live in a way that only considers your own needs and desires? You may gain money, power, fame, but when you die, what do you have to show for it? Even if there is no everlife, if you've spent your life only treating yourself right, you've done no one else any good. If there is no everlife, shouldn't we do as much as we can to help those in need, and make this life a little more enjoyable for everyone, not just ourselves? Can you imagine what a sickening world this would be if everyone followed the nine satanic "commandments"? |
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but HE says it himself *is gonna bust out his bible |
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2. we view satan as a symbol for the natural side of human nature. we model ourselves after satan and that is why it is called Satanism 3. good question. I would be hypocritical to act vengence on them. As long as people indulge themselves in a way that doesn't harm certain people it would be pointless to act vengence ------------------ He who stands atop the highest mountain can see the farthest |
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seeing other people happy makes me happy. So I like to help people make themselves happy. I do help people in need. I can imagine the world if everyone was a Satanist, it's not sickening though. ------------------ He who stands atop the highest mountain can see the farthest |
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One can do both--fulfill one's own needs and still do nice things for other people. I believe in charitable deeds, and at the same time I think it's often wise to help oneself first...a simple analogy might be like on airplanes when they advise parents to give themselves oxygen first before administering to their children. If you take care of your own needs first, you will be better able to help others. Which is not to say that I always put myself first, but I think different situations call for different responses, and that putting others first isn't always the best thing. I think when it is genuinely inspired, it is the right thing in that moment. But if you put others first out of a sense of duty or responsibility, rather than the joy of doing so, it is not necessarily always the wise and healthy thing to do. Does that make sense?
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