Is Palin failin' ? or OMG McCain wins with Palin !! pt. 3

[Popmartijn]

Originally Posted by Night & Day

I am sure Palin could pull some strings and get the poor boy a job.

She can always fire one of her own staff (on whatever pretext she deems necessary) to give that boy the position.

[sharon]

Originally Posted by cydewaze

Just imagine his level of crucifixion by the AM talk radio heads had his mom been a dem.

I know! the hypocrisy is unbelievable.

[Lila64]

No child left behind!

[cydewaze]

Originally Posted by martha

You mean there are no "pro-life" organizations to help those kids out? Or, like always, is their concern only for a fetus and not the parents?

Their concern typically ends at the moment of birth. Pre-birth, it's a precious life that needs saving. Post-birth, it's just another person to get denied universal health care, denied a decent living wage, and eventually to be sent off to die in a war for no good reason.

[martha]

Originally Posted by cydewaze

Their concern typically ends at the moment of birth. Pre-birth, it's a precious life that needs saving. Post-birth, it's just another person to get denied universal health care, denied a decent living wage, and eventually to be sent off to die in a war for no good reason.

I keep forgetting.

[U2isthebest]

Originally Posted by martha

I keep forgetting.

I always wonder how these Conservatives feel about the babies that are saved that turn out to be gay.

[Jeannieco]

Sorry to interrupt the conversation here...but did you all see this?
Wow, as John Cougar said..."racism lives in the USA"
Makes me sick to my stomach.

YouTube - More Racism at a Palin Rally in PA

[Night & Day]

wtf is that fuck thinking?
omg...

[yolland]

Originally Posted by sharon

Well now it seems that the baby daddy of Bristol Palin has decided to quit high school with one year left, something he'll need for the rest of his life to go out and work. I don't find that admirable I find it stupid. Are there really no family members willing to help out for the next 7 months so this boy can get an education to support his family for the rest of their lives?

He may be making a calculation that it's better for him and his family--or simply morally preferable to him--to drop out now and perhaps get a GED later if need be, so that he's able to help support his wife and child from the get-go. My guess is it's actually pretty common in Alaska for young men to leave high school early and take jobs in the oil fields, which pay fairly well and don't require a highschool degree. It's none of our business really.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Palin: "I've Got Nothing To Lose" In Attacking Obama

[Harry Vest]

Originally Posted by BonoVoxSupastar

Yes but have you noticed he has a very strong bias against anyone who has any criticism towards Palin? He writes every single critique off as bias, or "you're completely wrong".

He either has a crush on her, or he wants to be able to tell everyone "I told you so" about his Palin prediction thread... or a combination of the two.

Nice try...but no cigar. What I am doing however is seeing the ugly side of the so called "left" in your country and calling it out. Of coarse I want to see Obama become President and I've stated that numerous times. However, seeing the seething, ugly side of the so called "left" in America and the media hypocrisy has left me with a certain unease. Mind you, it's a lot less of an unease than if McCain/Palin actually won but it still bugs me. Regarding a "crush" I supposedly have on Palin...nope, sorry, o.k. she's hot and alot nicer to look at than most women in politics that have come before her i.e. Hillary, Madeline Albright, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Geraldine Ferraro etc. etc. and I love the fact that she really gets these people's "goats" so to speak- but in the end it's her policies and strange beliefs that scare me. If she were not so right-wing I would have a bit of a "crush" on her but alas, her positions make it impossible. What I like about her is how she strikes fear in the factions of the left that have always bothered me i.e. certain media, certain "feminists" and the like - that is why it may seem like sometimes I am defending her. The same people that scream bloody murder about her view (and apparently it is quite extreme) of abortion refuse to take a second look at the partial abortion vote that Obama voted against (which apparently is quite extreme the other way) or the the glee in which most of the media began thrashing her about her family moments after she was chosen as McCain's running mate. There is a certain disdain that some of the so called "left" have of her and people like her that I am deeply concerned that one day in the future it will backfire and backfire bigtime. Lucky for us it seems like it won't be this election but mark my words that if America keeps being this divided and vicious (on both sides) then one day Palin, or someone like her, will occupy the Whitehouse.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Harry Vest

Nice try...but no cigar. What I am doing however is seeing the ugly side of the so called "left" in your country and calling it out. Of coarse I want to see Obama become President and I've stated that numerous times. However, seeing the seething, ugly side of the so called "left" in America and the media hypocrisy has left me with a certain unease. Mind you, it's a lot less of an unease than if McCain/Palin actually won but it still bugs me. Regarding a "crush" I supposedly have on Palin...nope, sorry, o.k. she's hot and alot nicer to look at than most women in politics that have come before her i.e. Hillary, Madeline Albright, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Geraldine Ferraro etc. etc. and I love the fact that she really gets these people's "goats" so to speak- but in the end it's her policies and strange beliefs that scare me. If she were not so right-wing I would have a bit of a "crush" on her but alas, her positions make it impossible. What I like about her is how she strikes fear in the factions of the left that have always bothered me i.e. certain media, certain "feminists" and the like - that is why it may seem like sometimes I am defending her. The same people that scream bloody murder about her view (and apparently it is quite extreme) of abortion refuse to take a second look at the partial abortion vote that Obama voted against (which apparently is quite extreme the other way) or the the glee in which most of the media began thrashing her about her family moments after she was chosen as McCain's running mate. There is a certain disdain that some of the so called "left" have of her and people like her that I am deeply concerned that one day in the future it will backfire and backfire bigtime. Lucky for us it seems like it won't be this election but mark my words that if America keeps being this divided and vicious (on both sides) then one day Palin, or someone like her, will occupy the Whitehouse.

You realize the crush thing was a joke, right?

I just think you should be a little more even handed when it comes to criticism. Call out the criticisms that you think are unfair and explain why, but stop attacking everyone who has legitimate criticisms. It does no good.

[sharon]

Originally Posted by yolland

He may be making a calculation that it's better for him and his family--or simply morally preferable to him--to drop out now and perhaps get a GED later if need be, so that he's able to help support his wife and child from the get-go. My guess is it's actually pretty common in Alaska for young men to leave high school early and take jobs in the oil fields, which pay fairly well and don't require a highschool degree. It's none of our business really.

Come on now, its just plain old dumb to drop out now with only a few months to go to get a diploma that will last you a life time. If your a HR person would you pick the guy who has the GED or the diploma? Maybe he won't like working the oil fields, then what? He's totally limiting his choices for a life time and besides the child isn't even here yet. Is no one on either side of the families willing to help these kids out? Thats what it looks like. If he was my son there is no way in heck I would ever let him do that and even my 15 year old son saw how stupid this is. Really how can you even argue that its a good choice, its maybe noble but not smart. You're right that its not our business but when I have seen how some conservatives feel they are somehow morally higher than the other side I feel the need to point out the short comings from theirs...I'm leveling the playing field.

[toscano]

GOP keeping Palin away from talking to the non-partisan media ?

Commentary: Time for Palin to answer tough questions - CNN.com

[sharon]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

Palin: "I've Got Nothing To Lose" In Attacking Obama

Thanks for posting that, did you hear Rush ask her what her plans were for after Nov. 4th? They know its over.

[Lila64]

in reference to sharon's post, why isn't Palin offering to counsel the boy?

[martha]

Originally Posted by Lila64

in reference to sharon's post, why isn't Palin offering to counsel the boy?

She did such a great job with her daughter.

[corianderstem]

It's too easy to play the "LOLCONSERVATIVES" game, but I don't think it's entirely fair to go around crowing that the parents failed because she got knocked up. I don't care what the parents tried to instill in their kids, shit happens. Girls get pregnant whether or not the parents say "don't have sex" or "okay, just be sure to use a condom."

As for the boyfriend, I dunno. I understand that good money can be made in certain trades without a diploma, and it's not that uncommon for kids to do that in some areas and end up just fine. But I still think he should suck it up and finish high school.

Maybe it's pride saying "I want to provide for my new child," but it's not like these crazy kids are going to end up destitute because he finishes high school instead of jumping into the workforce.

[yolland]

I certainly do think it's best to at least take the GED in short order if you're not going to finish, since it's harder to pass later and you'll need that certification should you change your mind and decide to go to college (or into many kinds of jobs). Based on the AP interview all this is coming from, he'll be working as an apprentice electrician in the oil fields; to me the fact that he's going for that, rather than stocking shelves or flipping burgers, suggests that he's serious about acquiring longterm marketable skills now.

Are his political leanings even known? He said in the interview that he hadn't registered to vote, doesn't "know anything" about Obama except "he seems like a good guy, I like him" but that naturally he'd be rooting for his future mother-in-law.

And that's the last I'm going to say about it, because I feel silly reading the tea leaves for someone I really know nothing about.

[martha]

Originally Posted by corianderstem

It's too easy to play the "LOLCONSERVATIVES" game, but I don't think it's entirely fair to go around crowing that the parents failed because she got knocked up. I don't care what the parents tried to instill in their kids, shit happens. Girls get pregnant whether or not the parents say "don't have sex" or "okay, just be sure to use a condom."

I know, but she just makes it so easy!