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Old 10-06-2008, 11:48 AM   #681
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Do you really believe that crap?

Like Senator Biden had to explain to Governor Palin a million times, both liberals AND conservatives(including McCain) voted to cut off funding to the the troops at one time or another, not for the sake of cutting off funding but for the sake of their positions on a timeline for withdrawal, something that was present in one version of the bill and not present in another. Liberals wanted a timeline, conservatives wanted to stay there forever. Obama voted with Liberals against the one version of the funding bill that included the timeline and McCain voted with conservatives against the other version of the funding bill that didn't included the timeline. In both instances, they were both voting AGAINST something - the inclusion or non-inclusion of a timeline - not FOR anything, least of all to cut off funding for the troops. McCain did the SAME DAMN THING AS OBAMA - voting against one version of the funding bill because of his position on the timeline, but here he's attacking Obama for it as if he himself(McCain) never did anything of the sort! It's hypocritical and disingenuous and intentionally misleading, and people like you perpetuate it regardless of whether or not you know better.

As for the thing about what the troops are doing in Afghanistan - I am not sure where exactly that quote came from, but I am nearly certain it was taken out of context and twisted around to mean something it didn't.
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umm it was the wrong clip..but i said wtf..to keep things interesting.
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Rather ironic that we have a female VP candidate and some people still refuse to give females any credit for having critical thinking skills and intelligence. It must be all about cattiness and high school mentalities.

I am jealous of her shoes, I freely admit that. Especially the red ones.
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Mudslinging grips McCain, Obama campaigns - Decision '08 - MSNBC.com

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At Palin's rally, reporters weren't permitted to talk to the audience, the St. Petersburg Times reported. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head to where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out and turn the person around, Times staff writer Eileen Schulte wrote on the paper's Web site.
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At Palin's rally, reporters weren't permitted to talk to the audience, the St. Petersburg Times reported. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head to where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out and turn the person around, Times staff writer Eileen Schulte wrote on the paper's Web site.
This would be a lot a funnier if it wasn't so pathetic.
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This would be a lot a funnier if it wasn't so pathetic.



who knew it would come down to this?

as Grandpa Walnuts dithers into ever more incomprehensibility, Caribou Barbie is left to call Muslim-y sounding Barack Hussein Obama a terrorist.
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"Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed."

Never have truer words been spoken in America. Unfortunately, some people didn't get the memo, and are completely fine with a candidate who is hiding his biggest decision as a candidate.

(Bonus points to who can name the person who said that; Phanan cannot answer.)
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"Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed."

Never have truer words been spoken in America. Unfortunately, some people didn't get the memo, and are completely fine with a candidate who is hiding his biggest decision as a candidate.

(Bonus points to who can name the person who said that; Phanan cannot answer.)
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(Bonus points to who can name the person who said that; Phanan cannot answer.)


"... because in 1985 ..."
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Four and a half gold stars, plus bonus points, for both of you.

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Palin defends terrorist comment against Obama, says questioning link to Ayers is fair game
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Sarah Palin defended her claim that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists," saying the Democratic presidential nominee's association with a 1960s radical is an issue that is "fair to talk about."

Obama has denounced the radical views and actions of Bill Ayers, a founder of the violent Weather Underground group during the Vietnam era. On Sunday, Obama dismissed the criticism from the McCain campaign, leveled by Palin, as "smears" meant to distract voters from real problems such as the troubled economy.

Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, launched the attack Saturday and repeated it twice Sunday, signaling a new strategy by John McCain's presidential campaign to go after Obama's character.

"The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn't been talked about," Palin said as she boarded her plane in Long Beach, Calif. "I think it's fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy's living room."

Later, at an Omaha rally, Palin elaborated on her attack, claiming one of Obama's advisers had described Obama and Ayers as "friendly."

"In fact, Obama held one of his first meetings hoping to kick off his political career in Bill Ayers' living room," she told the crowd, which had just raised $2.5 million for the Republican party's McCain-Palin Victory 2008 fund.

At issue is Obama's association with Ayers. Both have served on the same Chicago charity and live near each other in Chicago. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s, the event cited by Palin.

In February, Obama strategist David Axelrod told the Politico Web site: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."

But while Ayers and Obama are acquainted, the charge that they "pal around" is a stretch of any reading of the public record. And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman.

At a rally in North Carolina, Obama countered that McCain and his campaign "are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance." The Democrat described the criticism as "Swiftboat-style attacks on me," a reference to the unsubstantiated allegations about 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry's decorated military record in Vietnam.

During her stop in California, Palin was asked about an Associated Press analysis that said her charge about Ayers was unsubstantiated, a point made by other news organizations, and the criticism carried a "racially tinged subtext that McCain may come to regret."

"The Associated Press is wrong," Palin said, before arguing that the issue had not been adequately discussed.

In fact, Obama was questioned about Ayers during a prime-time Democratic debate against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton prior to April's Pennsylvania primary. And McCain himself raised Ayers as a subject during an interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos in April.

Palin, re-energized after last week's debate against Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is animating the party's conservative wing with harsh attacks against Obama. She's courting high-dollar donors for campaign cash. And she is looking to wrestle away women and independent voters from the Democrats.

"The heels are on, the gloves are off," she declares, a threat delivered with a smile.

With that message, the campaign is sending her on a whirlwind tour of political trouble spots.

She was dispatched to Omaha on Sunday, a defensive move in one of the two states in the nation that can split their electoral votes. Her visit illustrated the depth of worry within the McCain camp. Since 1964, all five of the state's electoral votes have gone to the Republican presidential candidate. She denied being worried about the state, saying, "No, I'm going to Nebraska because I want to go to Nebraska."

On Monday, she begins a two-day, event-packed tour of Florida that stretches from Naples in the South to Pensacola in the panhandle. North Carolina and Pennsylvania are next.

Skilled with a crowd, she is still subject to slips.

In California, for instance, she seemed to lose her train of thought while discussing U.S. troop efforts in Afghanistan and referred to the country as "our neighboring country of Afghanistan."

"It was a mistake, a slip-up," said her spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt.

She has fended off some criticism with humor. "People say that I speak too simply, or don't have quite the — I don't have my thesaurus in my back pocket all along through my speeches," she said over the weekend. "Well, I don't have time for that."

On Sunday she added a new line to her repertoire, joking that her missteps were meant to help her spot-on "Saturday Night Live" impersonator.

"I was trying to give Tina Fey more material," she said at the Omaha rally. "Job security for 'Saturday Night Live.'"
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In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

Lovely.
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I love that half the country thinks Palin is a victim of the question, "What have you been reading lately?"
Reminds me of how Elisabeth Hasselbeck of The View tried to defend it by saying she was being extremely smart by not choosing one newspaper over another. Come on, now!
One day I hope the media will truly grow a pair and just not cover Palin at all, since she sooooo doesn't need them.
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I love it when Fox idiots complain about the 'biased mainstream media', then boast about being the #1 cable news channel, then go on about how much Obama sucks. Umm... there would be no more biased mainstream media source than Fox, by a million miles.
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^And it seems to work. People keep complaining about the "liberal MSM" and turn to Fox for getting "a balanced news source".

I think the 24h news channels are all politically biased entertainment programs.
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I don’t know. The Fox feed we have in Australia is identical to the US, but we get CNN International, which I can only assume is quite different to the US version, as Fox and CNN to me are not comparable at all. No matter what time of day, you can pretty much guarantee that you can tune into Fox and catch one of only about 8-10 hosts mixing it with one of only about 20 regular guests that they rotate in and out, ranting on about the far left, ‘real Americans’ and little else. CNN have shows like Anderson Cooper’s or Wolf Blitzer’s show will have a panel discussing the election or debate or whatever, and you can see some bias there for sure, you can see talking points being pushed definitely, but it makes up so much less of CNN’s programming and is no where near as dumbed down as it is when Fox do it.

For a lot of the rest of the time, you can actually tune in to CNN to (shock) get some news. You can’t do that with Fox. If it can’t be broken down into some US-centric left/right argument, or it’s not a big enough story to warrant a neat catchphrase and some Michael Bay movie graphics and sound effects, then I guess it’s not worth it. Tune into CNN though and I might catch half an hour on Georgia, or a detailed report on Pakistan, and news headlines that not only cover the US from corner to corner, but the world as well. Fox are nothing like that. They are not a journalistic/news channel, they are an opinion/entertainment channel. (We don’t have MSNBC but is sounds like it’s far closer to Fox than CNN).
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That's right, the other channels have at least some minutes of an hour devoted to actual news, and it seems they even afford themselves the luxury of putting reporters and equipment into other countries (though I can't blame Fox, you just cannot trust these socialist countries and bring expensive equipment they might have never seen over there). However, I am not impressed with the overall quality of the news, and though they do cover some of the stories of around the world, they rarely spend time explaining the background or specifics of that country.
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Well that's what the BBC is for. 'News' and 'facts' and 'background' are elitist though, and certainly not fair and balanced.
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