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Old 03-07-2012, 06:09 PM   #261
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He'll win more than 50% of the delegates at stake last night, which is pretty impressive in a four-way race.
LOL.

Formidable competition he's got.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:43 PM   #262
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The GOP sort of did it to themselves, though. They made the health care that Obama proposed (the Obamacare name is retarded) a massive fucking deal, even though it was entirely reasonable.


it was also pretty much Romney's plan and considered mainstream GOP policy up until Obama proposed it (after having rewritten it specifically for Republican Olympia Snowe).
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No one but Diamond is excited about Romney. So the question you have to ask yourself if you are a Republican, is the "anything but Obama vote" really that strong?

It didn't work against Bush.

I don't know if it is or not, I think there's a certain portion of the country that believes everyone hates Obama and that this next election is in the can no matter what suit they put up there. I think these people live in a bubble.

Now that doesn't mean the majority love Obama or are happy with things the way they are now, but I think he has reality on his side. Or at least I would hope so...

But who knows, it's still a long ways from now to November. I'm just suprised that this is all the GOP were capable of handing us. They honestly had it made, but I think at the end of the day they shot themselves in the foot.
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it seems like Kerry in 2004 was a much stronger candidate than Romney is in 2012.
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No one but Diamond is excited about Romney. So the question you have to ask yourself if you are a Republican, is the "anything but Obama vote" really that strong?

It didn't work against Bush.

I don't know if it is or not, I think there's a certain portion of the country that believes everyone hates Obama and that this next election is in the can no matter what suit they put up there. I think these people live in a bubble.

Now that doesn't mean the majority love Obama or are happy with things the way they are now, but I think he has reality on his side. Or at least I would hope so...

But who knows, it's still a long ways from now to November. I'm just suprised that this is all the GOP were capable of handing us. They honestly had it made, but I think at the end of the day they shot themselves in the foot.
I heard someone on tv, I don't remember who, say that the reason Christie and Daniels didn't run is because they didn't think Obama could be beat in 2012 and would rather wait until 2016.
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what the GOP base doesn't get is that Obama is widely liked. job approval is a slightly different thing, but people generally like Obama personally. if the economy continues to improve he's probably unbeatable barring a major disaster of some sort.
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So Breitbart's and Hannity's "nail in the coffin" video ended up being nothing but a weak attempt to make a link to an irrelevant "radical"?

Anything for ratings...
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Did you vote?
No, I worked so late that by the time I could get out the polls were closing.
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I just saw recaps on "The Daily Show" of CNN's coverage from last night, complete with their usual over-the-top technology.

Holy shit, those people have WAY too much time on their hands.

And I heard Mitt Romney talking about how on November 6th, his win meant that our future was saved. Uh-huh.
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I am supporting Mitt. I don't agree with some of his views, however, I feel like he is the candidate most capable of turning the economy around and getting people back to work; and for me that is the most important issue.
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I am supporting Mitt. I don't agree with some of his views, however, I feel like he is the candidate most capable of turning the economy around and getting people back to work; and for me that is the most important issue.
Do you know his plan for doing so?
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I am supporting Mitt. I don't agree with some of his views, however, I feel like he is the candidate most capable of turning the economy around and getting people back to work; and for me that is the most important issue.
Welcome to the forum. I don't recall seeing around very much!

Hate to start things off with a disagreement, but I do question your above statement. I don't buy that any president has that much control over the economy or putting people back to work (especially in the private sector. I suppose a president could advocate for legislation that would create more government jobs, but I'm guessing that an FDR-style spate of public employment opportunities is not what you mean't by "getting people back to work.")
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I just saw recaps on "The Daily Show" of CNN's coverage from last night, complete with their usual over-the-top technology.

Holy shit, those people have WAY too much time on their hands.
The worst thing was sending a reporter to Wasilla-they must have camped out all day waiting for Sarah Palin to show up. It looked like they were using Skype or something, the picture was terrible. Apparently she started all kinds of speculation that she might get into the race.
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i, for one, have my DVR set for "Game Change" this Saturday night.

Julianne Moore as Our Sarah gives me the vapors.
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So Breitbart's and Hannity's "nail in the coffin" video ended up being nothing but a weak attempt to make a link to an irrelevant "radical"?

Anything for ratings...
It was a socialist hug. Duh.
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Welcome to the forum. I don't recall seeing around very much!

Hate to start things off with a disagreement, but I do question your above statement. I don't buy that any president has that much control over the economy or putting people back to work (especially in the private sector. I suppose a president could advocate for legislation that would create more government jobs, but I'm guessing that an FDR-style spate of public employment opportunities is not what you mean't by "getting people back to work.")
President Mitt in conjunction with a Republican Congress (but only with both the House and the Senate in GOP hands) could potentially redirect the economy in one way or another. The president is a very important component of that, I think.
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President Mitt in conjunction with a Republican Congress (but only with both the House and the Senate in GOP hands) could potentially redirect the economy in one way or another. The president is a very important component of that, I think.
But how?
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But how?
Tax policy? Stimulus or lack thereof? Welfare programs that impact demand? More indirectly... appointments to the Federal Reserve (Bernanke's term expires in 2014)? And in the long term, things like education policy?

It's hard for the government to really do much about structural issues that the economy has (they can try, but it tends to not work too well, and can probably manufacture cyclical problems), but for cyclical issues, the president and Congress have a fairly significant amount of power.
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Tax policy? Stimulus or lack thereof? Welfare programs that impact demand? More indirectly... appointments to the Federal Reserve (Bernanke's term expires in 2014)? And in the long term, things like education policy?

It's hard for the government to really do much about structural issues that the economy has (they can try, but it tends to not work too well, and can probably manufacture cyclical problems), but for cyclical issues, the president and Congress have a fairly significant amount of power.
This is the problem. No one knows his plan. You admit government has little power with structural issues, and many would disagree about what power they have over cycles.

Most of what you talk about are temporary fixes.

Tax policy- most of what republicans are talking about today are quick fixes that will create bubbles later.

Stimulus? No republican will ever be allowed to pass stimulus in this decade.

Education? Very much needed but the GOP is notoriously abysmal when it comes to education. Does Mitt have anything new?

Welfare? What do you suggest?
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Oh, I misunderstood you. I thought you were critiquing the power of the government to impact the economy in general, not Mitt Romney in specific. Although I suppose that one could argue that Romney's relative inaction is in itself really an action that could cause problems, especially given another recession (lack of stimulus). Trust me, I'm not a Romney fan.
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