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Old 02-01-2006, 03:56 PM   #1
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GOP lawmakers propose some rights for same-sex couples

GOP lawmakers propose some rights for same-sex couples



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DENVER — When Democrats unveiled their proposal to allow same-sex couples to file as domestic partners two weeks ago, social conservatives objected because they said it would discriminate against people who weren’t gay.
Now some longtime opponents of expanding gay rights are supporting a proposal that would automatically give some rights to same-sex couples but only if they’re also given to other people who can’t marry and are living together. That would include everyone from roommates to daughters and mothers who live in the same house.

Sponsor Sen. Shawn Mitchell, R-Broomfield, said the bill doesn’t specify what kind of relationship exists between the two people.

“This is an interesting challenge for some legislators as to whether or not they want to constructively solve problems or whether they only want to support bills that single out a particular kind of relationship and exclude other households,” he said.

The proposal also has the support of the public policy arm of Focus on the Family.
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Comprehensive legislation is needed to help define and protect the myriad of "domestic relationships" people establish.
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this is why marriage equality -- not marrige-lite -- is the solution.
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this is why marriage equality -- not marrige-lite -- is the solution.
marriage equality cannot happen with the republicans in control of congress and probaly can't even happen with the dems in control
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I think this an interesting concept. This approach is not defining what the partnership is. Isn't that what equality is about?
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Yes, it is an interesting concept, but it will never happen in the US (for a long time) because of the huge number of conservatives and people who honestly believe they will burn in hell if they destory the sacred tradition of marriage.
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Yes, it is an interesting concept, but it will never happen in the US (for a long time) because of the huge number of conservatives and people who honestly believe they will burn in hell if they destory the sacred tradition of marriage.
Actually, it should get widespread approval, because it will not be labeled marriage, but achieve all the legal aspects originally sought.
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Yes, it is an interesting concept, but it will never happen in the US (for a long time) because of the huge number of conservatives and people who honestly believe they will burn in hell if they destory the sacred tradition of marriage.
Maybe they should be taken out and beaten for their beliefs....then they should change their minds.
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Maybe they should be taken out and beaten for their beliefs....then they should change their minds.
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Actually, it should get widespread approval, because it will not be labeled marriage, but achieve all the legal aspects originally sought.
So does this mean I can sponsor my roommate for U.S. immigration?

This is where ignoring and pretending that gay relationships don't exist falls flat.

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So does this mean I can sponsor my roommate for U.S. immigration?

This is where ignoring and pretending that gay relationships don't exist falls flat.

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Do you feel that the proposed law will do that?
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Do you feel that the proposed law will do that?
Of course not. If I really believed it would, I would be pleasantly surprised.

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So does this mean I can sponsor my roommate for U.S. immigration?

This is where ignoring and pretending that gay relationships don't exist falls flat.

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Melon,

This is subterfuge,

They could not get enough traction, comparing gay relationships to, bestiality, necrophilia and incest.

So now this.
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Why does it have to degenerate into this...

We are here and can have a discussion without introducing this to the thread.
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What is up with that.

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Maybe they should be taken out and beaten for their beliefs....then they should change their minds.
When I talk about the DP I am called different names. How would that help your cause to let Homosexuals have the same right.

So if they dont agree with homosexual marriage they should be beaten? Thats like saying for ever Gay man or Lesbian getting married they should be lynched because it's a sin, wrong and disgusting and not human nature.
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Why does it have to degenerate into this...

We are here and can have a discussion without introducing this to the thread.
Do you really believe Focus on the Family and the Colorado GOP is in favor enacting legislation to benefit gays?

It is subterfuge.
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Re: What is up with that.

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So if they dont agree with homosexual marriage they should be beaten? Thats like saying for ever Gay man or Lesbian getting married they should be lynched because it's a sin, wrong and disgusting and not human nature.
Thank you for making my point for me.
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Why does it have to degenerate into this...

We are here and can have a discussion without introducing this to the thread.
While appreciating the "deep" sense of irony, I'll try and frame my point in a more rational sense here.

Immigration is always going to be the sticking point with me, because that's really my largest concern. I could move to Canada (and probably will, at this rate), but I also happen to have a career path where I will find my most fulfillment in America. Canadian media is limited in scope, yes, but the biggest problem with it is that it is so highly protectionist in terms of hiring that I would have plenty of hurdles myself to overcome just to be able to work.

Maybe people might understand why I'm horrendously cynical. Plus, if "Focus on the Fascism" supports something, it's certainly highly limited in scope.

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