Do you think Bono sees thru...

diamond · 05-22-2002, 04:09 AM

oppurtunistic people and fans that are trying to get next to him for their own selfish gratification, agenda or other self serving reasons?

I think he is keenly aware of their motives usually.
What say you?

diamond

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

[This message has been edited by diamond (edited 05-22-2002).]

Desire4Bono · 05-22-2002, 08:13 AM

I hope so, but I don't think so. He's too nice and I think he gives people too much of the benefit of the doubt even when they don't deserve it. I do think Bono has been taken advantage of and will continue to be.

------------------
~"Everybody seems to think I'm lazy,
I don't mind, think they're crazy
running everywhere at such a speed
'til they find, there's no need!
Please don't spoil my day,
I'm miles away,
and after all, I'm only sleeping!"~
John Lennon

[This message has been edited by Desire4Bono (edited 05-22-2002).]

zooropamanda · 05-23-2002, 01:37 AM

When I won a trip to stay at the clarence, i spoke to some people there and they told me that unfortuantely u2 always have these people hanging off them, hanging around, that are just there to do the sort of thing you're talking about Diamond.

People will always take advantage but Im sure as desire said, they probably are used to it by now and just put up with it and then move them along.

diamond · 05-23-2002, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zooropamanda:
When I won a trip to stay at the clarence, i spoke to some people there and they told me that unfortuantely u2 always have these people hanging off them, hanging around, that are just there to do the sort of thing you're talking about Diamond.

People will always take advantage but Im sure as desire said, they probably are used to it by now and just put up with it and then move them along.

Manda-
My pt. exactly.
Like the way Bono will put a lameass reporter in check during a press conference w a comment or a polite follow up question

.
Or-
quickly dissmissing a fan after ascetaining that fan's motives as not genuine.
Something I notice, he seems to have a great read on people and very intuitive.

diamond

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

meegannie · 05-23-2002, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Desire4Bono:
I hope so, but I don't think so. He's too nice and I think he gives people too much of the benefit of the doubt even when they don't deserve it. I do think Bono has been taken advantage of and will continue to be.

I agree. He's still friends with Naomi Campbell, isn't he?

sulawesigirl4 · 05-23-2002, 09:37 AM

I think Bono is a helluva lot smarter than people give him credit for. If he seems taken advantage of, I�d be willing to bet he does so for a reason and not because he�s oblivious.

BAW · 05-23-2002, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
I think Bono is a helluva lot smarter than people give him credit for. If he seems taken advantage of, I�d be willing to bet he does so for a reason and not because he�s oblivious.

Well said Sula...I think being in the public eye for 20+ years has taught him a lot about people's true motivations and he is problably able to smell an oportunist a mile away. He knows exactly what he's doing.

diamond · 05-23-2002, 10:53 AM

Very well put
Sula and Mrs American Bono.

Its almost like he says silently -"go ahead- think youre getting over on me, use me , youre really not"..
And if the user gets too greedy or becomes blantantly foolish he has them quickly and politely "dismissed".

My observation.

diamond

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

ouizy · 05-23-2002, 03:03 PM

uh,

ouizy · 05-23-2002, 03:13 PM

or uh,

ouizy · 05-23-2002, 03:15 PM

or uh,

diamond · 05-23-2002, 04:44 PM

ouizy?

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

foray · 05-24-2002, 04:36 AM

It'd be hard to try and manipulate a man who used to be called 'The AntiChrist'.

Who's that playing disc throw with Bono??? What's happening?

foray

diamond · 05-24-2002, 08:40 AM

Good point,Foray.
What's happening there is Bono after recoginizing one fan's motives, and pulling him up, inquiring if he was ok, then asking him to remain on stage w/him, and close the show, requested that the fan pick him up,(twice) thats all.

The fan was humbled by the event.
Ouizy-
I am glad Bono accurately recognized that fan's motives.
Case in point.

Peace
Out

diamond

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

ouizy · 05-24-2002, 08:59 AM

The only reason why I posted your photos was it seemed they contradicted the point you were trying to make:

Quote:

oppurtunistic people and fans that are trying to get next to him for their own selfish gratification, agenda or other self serving reasons?

I understand his willingness to pull you onstage for one show, but then to read your "open letter" made me think that you were up there for more than one show, ran around the heart, got tackled by someone, etc. etc. etc.

As much as I would hope that your photos proved your point, they just seem to contradict it, that's all.

Anyway - I am leaving for your beautiful city tonight and hope to bake in the dry heat that you refer to...

ouizy

diamond · 05-24-2002, 09:13 AM

That's ok Ouizy.
I will trust Bono's assesment and judgement over yours.

I see you were not at that show.

Meeting Bono was only a by-product of what I was attempting to do, which Bono recognized.

This is why I say he is very keen.

Have a good trip.

Sincerely-

diamond

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

ouizy · 05-24-2002, 09:35 AM

Heh heh heh

What were you attempting to do (no, I was not at that show)?

In all honesty, I have no judgement other than questioning a thread that someone posted regarding "fans trying to get next to him" when that person has a website dedicated to getting next to him, and his reasons, and why security should be kind to him. It just seems a bit hypocritical to get next to him, then post a thread about fans trying to get next to him. It just makes you wonder.

diamond · 05-24-2002, 09:51 AM

Keep wondering then, cuz Bono figured it out .

DB9
ps-
I was attempting to bring the love of some fans to the stage..inwhich he recognized and welcomed..
It was also nice to have furthur correspondence w/him at future shows and have him still recognizing and acknowledging this fan's motives.
Way cool.
Very humbling.

thats all.
Peace
Out-

------------------
AIM= diamondbruno9

[This message has been edited by diamond (edited 05-24-2002).]

ouizy · 05-24-2002, 10:09 AM

I see.

Peace - have a great weeeknd.

z edge · 05-25-2002, 08:32 PM

While not necessarily the wisest thing to have done, I respect the determination of diamond and the appreciation by Bono during that incident.

And remember, since when is it a written rule that male fans cannot get onstage with Bono or the band? He pulled a girl up almost every show for the last three tours for gosh sakes.

I would have loved to have been in diamonds shoes, I don't see that as opportunistic or shallow.

05-22-2002, 04:09 AM	#1
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:31 AM	Do you think Bono sees thru... oppurtunistic people and fans that are trying to get next to him for their own selfish gratification, agenda or other self serving reasons? I think he is keenly aware of their motives usually. What say you? diamond ------------------ AIM= diamondbruno9 [This message has been edited by diamond (edited 05-22-2002).] __________________

05-22-2002, 08:13 AM	#2
Desire4Bono Refugee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: living in a rock and roll fantasy- and what's wrong with that? Posts: 1,921 Local Time: 10:31 AM	I hope so, but I don't think so. He's too nice and I think he gives people too much of the benefit of the doubt even when they don't deserve it. I do think Bono has been taken advantage of and will continue to be. ------------------ ~"Everybody seems to think I'm lazy, I don't mind, think they're crazy running everywhere at such a speed 'til they find, there's no need! Please don't spoil my day, I'm miles away, and after all, I'm only sleeping!"~ John Lennon [This message has been edited by Desire4Bono (edited 05-22-2002).] __________________

05-25-2002, 08:32 PM	#20
z edge I serve MacPhisto Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: the HORROR Posts: 4,022 Local Time: 09:31 AM	While not necessarily the wisest thing to have done, I respect the determination of diamond and the appreciation by Bono during that incident. And remember, since when is it a written rule that male fans cannot get onstage with Bono or the band? He pulled a girl up almost every show for the last three tours for gosh sakes. I would have loved to have been in diamonds shoes, I don't see that as opportunistic or shallow. __________________

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

05-23-2002, 01:37 AM	#3
zooropamanda Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Smile, you're reading my post Posts: 6,515 Local Time: 01:31 AM	When I won a trip to stay at the clarence, i spoke to some people there and they told me that unfortuantely u2 always have these people hanging off them, hanging around, that are just there to do the sort of thing you're talking about Diamond. People will always take advantage but Im sure as desire said, they probably are used to it by now and just put up with it and then move them along.

05-23-2002, 09:37 AM	#6
sulawesigirl4 Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,415 Local Time: 10:31 AM	I think Bono is a helluva lot smarter than people give him credit for. If he seems taken advantage of, I�d be willing to bet he does so for a reason and not because he�s oblivious.

05-23-2002, 10:53 AM	#8
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:31 AM	Very well put Sula and Mrs American Bono. Its almost like he says silently -"go ahead- think youre getting over on me, use me , youre really not".. And if the user gets too greedy or becomes blantantly foolish he has them quickly and politely "dismissed". My observation. diamond ------------------ AIM= diamondbruno9

05-23-2002, 03:03 PM	#9
ouizy Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: s p o r a t i c Posts: 3,794 Local Time: 11:31 AM	uh,

05-23-2002, 03:13 PM	#10
ouizy Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: s p o r a t i c Posts: 3,794 Local Time: 11:31 AM	or uh,

05-23-2002, 03:15 PM	#11
ouizy Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: s p o r a t i c Posts: 3,794 Local Time: 11:31 AM	or uh,

05-23-2002, 04:44 PM	#12
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:31 AM	ouizy? ------------------ AIM= diamondbruno9

05-24-2002, 04:36 AM	#13
foray Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: full of sound and fury Posts: 3,386 Local Time: 04:31 AM	It'd be hard to try and manipulate a man who used to be called 'The AntiChrist'. Who's that playing disc throw with Bono??? What's happening? foray

05-24-2002, 08:40 AM	#14
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:31 AM	Good point,Foray. What's happening there is Bono after recoginizing one fan's motives, and pulling him up, inquiring if he was ok, then asking him to remain on stage w/him, and close the show, requested that the fan pick him up,(twice) thats all. The fan was humbled by the event. Ouizy- I am glad Bono accurately recognized that fan's motives. Case in point. Peace Out diamond ------------------ AIM= diamondbruno9

05-24-2002, 09:13 AM	#16
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:31 AM	That's ok Ouizy. I will trust Bono's assesment and judgement over yours. I see you were not at that show. Meeting Bono was only a by-product of what I was attempting to do, which Bono recognized. This is why I say he is very keen. Have a good trip. Sincerely- diamond ------------------ AIM= diamondbruno9

05-24-2002, 09:35 AM	#17
ouizy Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: s p o r a t i c Posts: 3,794 Local Time: 11:31 AM	Heh heh heh What were you attempting to do (no, I was not at that show)? In all honesty, I have no judgement other than questioning a thread that someone posted regarding "fans trying to get next to him" when that person has a website dedicated to getting next to him, and his reasons, and why security should be kind to him. It just seems a bit hypocritical to get next to him, then post a thread about fans trying to get next to him. It just makes you wonder.

05-24-2002, 09:51 AM	#18
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 08:31 AM	Keep wondering then, cuz Bono figured it out . DB9 ps- I was attempting to bring the love of some fans to the stage..inwhich he recognized and welcomed.. It was also nice to have furthur correspondence w/him at future shows and have him still recognizing and acknowledging this fan's motives. Way cool. Very humbling. thats all. Peace Out- ------------------ AIM= diamondbruno9 [This message has been edited by diamond (edited 05-24-2002).]

05-24-2002, 10:09 AM	#19
ouizy Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: s p o r a t i c Posts: 3,794 Local Time: 11:31 AM	I see. Peace - have a great weeeknd.