I'm sorry, you don't think this is 10x worse than waterboarding, and deserves its own thread? We don't even know if waterboarding is torture yet, man! We need like, eight more congressional hearings.MadelynIris said:talk about a hate crime
As horrible as this is, and it is -- it still pales in comparison to the horrors of war that many of these soldiers are submitted to.
I'm sorry, you don't think this is 10x worse than waterboarding, and deserves its own thread? We don't even know if waterboarding is torture yet, man! We need like, eight more congressional hearings.
MadelynIris said:like this for example:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/03/04/smith.afghan.one.soldier.story.itn
Canadiens,
What in world are you talking about?
You can't really compare the two. These soldiers joined the military voluntarily knowing full well that they could be sent to war and get injured or killed. They're trained to defend themselves and to kill the enemy. This innocent little puppy can't possibly defend itself or fight back against these soldiers. Our soldiers have seen and suffered awful things for sure, but they have a choice in the matter. This defenseless animal didn't, and those soldiers who participated in this despicable crime should be punished to the fullest extent allowed
MadelynIris said:talk about a hate crime
As horrible as this is, and it is -- it still pales in comparison to the horrors of war that many of these soldiers are submitted to.
anitram said:
And yet most of the soldiers will act honourably.
MadelynIris said:
MadelynIris said:
Yes, human life cannot be compared to a dog.
Well...MadelynIris said:
Canadiens,
What in world are you talking about?
I wish a lot more of my fellow American citizens (I have dual citizenship) had that same attitude toward their country commiting torture, to be honest. It's despicable when it's an animal, but not when it's a brown guy.U2isthebest said:This defenseless animal didn't, and those soldiers who participated in this despicable crime should be punished to the fullest extent allowed.
U2isthebest said:I agree, yet the point is, these soldiers can defend themselves against attack. They can protect their life. This little puppy could not. In the scheme of things, yes, a human life is of far greater t value than that of an animal. That's not the point here. The point is the life of animal, which still has value, was taken for no reason other than some sick peoples' idea of a good time.
Canadiens1160 said:
I wish a lot more of my fellow American citizens (I have dual citizenship) had that same attitude toward their country commiting torture, to be honest. It's despicable when it's an animal, but not when it's a brown guy.
when they stalked and raped that 14 year old girl (repeatedly)
killed her whole family
and burned her body
I was concern it would escalate
unico said:have you guys just missed the explosive torture threads here or something? u2isthebest has been quite explicit on her feelings of torture. is it so bad she is consistent with treatment of all species? wtf?
MadelynIris said:And the two really aren't comparable. The above is soo much more horrid and tragic.
Yeah, to be honest this thread almost cracks me up, in a morbid kind of way. After everything else in Iraq and at GITMO...oh my god they're throwing puppies off cliffs, they've gone too far this time!U2isthebest said:This thread is about a puppy being killed, so why I would bring up the torture situation?
Canadiens1160 said:
Yeah, to be honest this thread almost cracks me up, in a morbid kind of way. After everything else in Iraq and at GITMO...oh my god they're throwing puppies off cliffs, they've gone too far this time!