9/11: The most over-rated thing ever? - Page 3

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Elvis

By the way... I'm really wondering what a "satanist" sees in U2 ... not exactly the book of the devil, thats for sure. lol.

Getting off topic just alittle....
What I see in U2. I see a band who stands up for what they believe in. A band who does not keep there mouths shut because other people might take offence. A band who Help people in need without trivialising there grief. A band who understands.

Elvis · 09-08-2002, 09:38 PM

Just a bit of commentary:

Being able to communicate an idea properly... really helps avoid conflict. People should think before they post, espcially about sensitive topics.

Joel

Elvis · 09-08-2002, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar

Getting off topic just alittle....
What I see in U2. I see a band who stands up for what they believe in. A band who does not keep there mouths shut because other people might take offence. A band who Help people in need without trivialising there grief. A band who understands.

Exactly. So I guess 75% or more of Africa thats infected with HIV/AIDS -IS- important to you, as opposed to only 3000 that died in the WTC?

*confused*

Joel

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Elvis

*sigh*
Once again, my remarks go ignored. Please refer to my previous post inwhich I quoted your ORIGINAL post.

I did read your remarks. I just wanted to tell Khanada that I agreed with her. Elvis, I know you understand (I think) what I was trying to say and I just want other to understand too before they go saying things without knowing the whole situation(as in what I was thinking)

Elvis · 09-08-2002, 09:43 PM

and I have one more remark....

(imagine that)

So... during Elevation Tour... you liked or disliked the names of the dead being projected?

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Elvis

Exactly. So I guess 75% or more of Africa thats infected with HIV/AIDS -IS- important to you, as opposed to only 3000 that died in the WTC?

*confused*

Joel

Atleast the 3000 people that died got to live in one of the greatest countries in the world. Those people in Africa, they havent even had the chance to live how people in America get to live. I betchya most people in Africa would love to live for only 20 years in America (or any similar country) and then die. It is way better than dying of a disease you have had most (or all) of your life in a place where life is barely worth living without disease.

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elvis
and I have one more remark....

(imagine that)

So... during Elevation Tour... you liked or disliked the names of the dead being projected?

I see nothing wrong with it. Those people need to have their story told. But everywhere I look is not the place. The names were appropriate at the time. I dont think a hat or a shirt that portrays Ground Zero as a tourist attraction is appropriate.

V Nura · 09-08-2002, 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar

I did read your remarks. I just wanted to tell Khanada that I agreed with her. Elvis, I know you understand (I think) what I was trying to say and I just want other to understand too before they go saying things without knowing the whole situation(as in what I was thinking)

honestly....I don't even see how you are qualified to issue a statement on what is a tragedy and what isn't. That' borders on playing god. It happened in our backyard...and we as americans will react to it as we choose to. Oh and if you ahve problem with 9/11 being everywhere you look...close your eyes....oh wait..you already have. You can't have compassion selectivly...based on who dies of what.

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Arun V

honestly....I don't even see how you are qualified to issue a statement on what is and isnt' overrated....it happened in our backyard...and we as americans will react to it as we choose to. Oh and if you ahve problem with 9/11 being everywhere you look...close your eyes....oh wait..you already have

It happened next door to me. I have just as much right to have an opinion on it as you do. You should know this. Your counrty is based on free will. Yet you say I shouldnt comment on something. And if you dont want to read my opinions then dont. Close your eyes. You might realise that seeing isnt everything.

V Nura · 09-08-2002, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar

It happened next door to me. I have just as much right to have an opinion on it as you do. You should know this. Your counrty is based on free will. Yet you say I shouldnt comment on something. And if you dont want to read my opinions then dont. Close your eyes. You might realise that seeing isnt everything.

It's your RIGHT to say whatever you want

Common sense and decency sometimes requie you keeping your mouth shut

BAW · 09-08-2002, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar

At least the 3000 people that died got to live in one of the greatest countries in the world. Those people in Africa, they havent even had the chance to live how people in America get to live. I betchya most people in Africa would love to live for only 20 years in America (or any similar country) and then die. It is way better than dying of a disease you have had most (or all) of your life in a place where life is barely worth living without disease.

This post is almost as offensive as your first one, if that's possible.

Are you trying to say that the people who were murdered on 9/11 should consider themselves lucky?

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 09:59 PM

I think they should consider themselves lucky because they got to live in an amazing country. Not because they died.

diamond · 09-08-2002, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar

I cannot give other Satanist a bad rep. Unlike other religions, we dont all conform to the herd and act like one another. One Satanists opinion can be the opposite from another Satanists opinion. Just because I think this way, doesnt mean someone else will.

Umm
ok then but you are giving us "humans" a bad rap..

Your views re this topic come accross as being "sub-human"

Your understanding of Satanism doent espouse subhuman beliefs does it?

DB9

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by diamond

Umm
ok then but you are giving us "humans" a bad rap..

Your views re this topic come accross as being "sub-human"

Your understanding of Satanism doent espouse subhuman beliefs does it?

DB9

Im not quite sure what you mean by sub-human.

V Nura · 09-08-2002, 10:02 PM

OOOOH OK

I understand raven star now....IT"S OK EVERBODY

see raven star is now able to judge whose life is worth what because of where they lived and how they lived. Obviously living in an affluent nation makes it ok if you just happen to be murdered in cold blood by extremists.

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by Arun V
OOOOH OK

I understand raven star now....IT"S OK EVERBODY

see raven star is now able to judge whose life is worth what because of where they lived and how they lived. Obviously living in an affluent nation makes it ok if you just happen to be murdered in cold blood by extremists.

*sigh* you just dont get it do you? I'm saying I would rather live for 20 years in America and then die then live 20 years in a country where I am starving and dying of disease.I'm not saying its okay, Im just saying it could be worse.

Elvis · 09-08-2002, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar
I think they should consider themselves lucky because they got to live in an amazing country. Not because they died.

What bout all those americans raped and murdered and kidnapped in this great country? They are lucky too?
And while we're at it... I suppose anyone murdered should be 'lucky' to have lived at all?

Man you have a fucked up sense of reality.
Your scales are tipped.

V Nura · 09-08-2002, 10:08 PM

*sigh* YOU dont' get it do you

it's not your decision to make

and it's not your job to assign quantitative sentimentality to ppl's lives.

diamond · 09-08-2002, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by RavenStar

Im not quite sure what you mean by sub-human.

Well plez have the "satanists" that oppose the actions of the maniacs on 9/11 pray for your enlightenment..on what is humane conduct and inhumane conduct..

ok?

thank u
DB9

RavenStar · 09-08-2002, 10:12 PM

Like I said. Being killed, raped, etc, is NOT lucky. Having lived in a good country IS lucky.

09-08-2002, 09:38 PM	#42
Elvis Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: May 2000 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,008 Local Time: 08:39 AM	Just a bit of commentary: Being able to communicate an idea properly... really helps avoid conflict. People should think before they post, espcially about sensitive topics. Joel __________________

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RavenStar Refugee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Purgatory Posts: 1,101 Local Time: 11:39 AM	Like I said. Being killed, raped, etc, is NOT lucky. Having lived in a good country IS lucky. __________________

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09-08-2002, 09:43 PM	#45
Elvis Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: May 2000 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 4,008 Local Time: 08:39 AM	and I have one more remark.... (imagine that) So... during Elevation Tour... you liked or disliked the names of the dead being projected?

09-08-2002, 09:59 PM	#52
RavenStar Refugee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Purgatory Posts: 1,101 Local Time: 11:39 AM	I think they should consider themselves lucky because they got to live in an amazing country. Not because they died.

09-08-2002, 10:02 PM	#55
V Nura Refugee Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,760 Local Time: 05:39 PM	OOOOH OK I understand raven star now....IT"S OK EVERBODY see raven star is now able to judge whose life is worth what because of where they lived and how they lived. Obviously living in an affluent nation makes it ok if you just happen to be murdered in cold blood by extremists.

09-08-2002, 10:08 PM	#58
V Nura Refugee Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,760 Local Time: 05:39 PM	sigh YOU dont' get it do you it's not your decision to make and it's not your job to assign quantitative sentimentality to ppl's lives.