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Old 07-03-2005, 06:26 PM   #21
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Some of my points have been a bit vague. My original question or point was that which artists would be just doing it for a career boost.
I personally don't feel I can make that call. I have no idea what anyone's motives were and don't feel like speculating about it, frankly.
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I don't think Pink Floyd would really be in it for a career boost. The fact that MTV were even DARING to go to commercial breaks during their set is enough to drag me from thinking whether the Floyd would suddenly think "Hang on...we've got the 'Wish You Were Here' and 'Animals' SACD's coming out in a couple of months...fancy going on tour?"

If they did tour again, then I'd be a bit curious as to WHY? But the re-releases were on the cards anyway, and I'm a bit 'worried' people are instantly going to assume "Oh, they're doing it off the back of Live8..."
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Some of my points have been a bit vague. My original question or point was that which artists would be just doing it for a career boost. And from most of your answers you seem to suggest that none would have any thoughts such as that. I have to disagree and I think that many artists that appeared would have been thinking about getting back in the public eye, I mean UB40, have they sold any records the past 10 years,
Some could see it that way, but then again, you could also say that if that's indeed the motivation, at least someone like UB40 chose to get noticed again with a good cause, instead of going down the reality-show route that many celebrities who haven't been in the public eye for quite some time seem to choose nowadays.

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I also hear they were complaining about only having 15 minutes on stage,
Maybe they felt that wasn't enough time for them to be able to say what they wanted to say about the cause?

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and when I see Madonna interviewed all she seemed to go on about was the fact that she was doing another tour video/movie or something. Talk about self promoting.
I've only seen one interview bit with Madonna, and in her bit she talked about the girl that she hugged on stage (and she seemed genuinely choked up upon seeing her). Maybe somebody asked her about her upcoming plans, therefore naturally she'd have to talk about them.

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It always takes me back to when Princess Diana died and Elton John released Candle In The Wind. For the few years building up to this Elton John had very limited success in the charts and his career was on a downward slide, he releases this song with a new song of his own, Something about the way you look tonight, as a double A-side. If he wasn't thinking about his own career then why would he have put a brand new song as a double A-side? I always remember Noel Gallagher also pointing this out at the time saying he was taking advantage of the situation.
Course, then again, my question would be this-was this Elton's decision or his record label's? Not every musician has total control over that sort of thing. Or maybe he recorded that song long before the whole tragedy and the record label released it without his knowing or something, too. That kind of thing happens sometimes, after all.

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I know this is a bit off base but if a lot of people here think that all the artists do this solely for the cause then I am pretty surprised.
I just think that it's sad that people are so quick to be so cynical and wonder how much some of the artists cared about what they were there for, is all. Like I said, they came out and helped out for a good cause, why that isn't enough is something I don't get. Why do people have to get so suspicious of their motives?

Or, basically, I'll just give a to everything joyfulgirl said in this thread, as she took the words out of my mouth and said them better than I could .

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Angela, I agree with everything you've said here!

I think it's great that these artists cared enough to put their voices behind this cause... and that was the point of the entire thing... to add your VOICE.

Most of the artists I managed to catch (which was most of the London set throughout the day) made sure to remind the crowd of exactly why they were there.

So, yeah, it's easy to put a negative twist on the event... but I believe it was incredibly positive and did exactly what it set out to achieve... to raise awareness.
Exactly. And thanks .

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I must say I will agree SOME of the artists who performed may have been there cos it was a good career move. Don't matter really, because they weren't there performing their own concert, but were performing for Live8.

(FWIW, while it may not be very visible now, UB40 have always been since their beginning, a political band).
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I think the artists do care about whats fair and right, but none of them has the ability to make a diference the way Bono does
But this show obviously help their careers thats true.....so they would not miss the oportunity
But what makes me laugh is to see all these artists who know talk about Africa like they all are masters of the subjet.........agg
What have been they doing all this years?
Sting, what did you do for Africa since 85' ?

I think they should have thanked Bono for all of this! Every single one of them
Bob for organizing, but Bono for the vision, the tenacity and the idea to make all of this happen!
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Acts see album sales soar after Live 8 gigs

LONDON (Reuters) - They came out of charity. They left with booming record sales.

The galaxy of rock stars who took part in Live 8 concerts on Saturday to help beat the curse of poverty have seen their records fly off the shelves in British music stores, proving that cash balances as well as consciences were the winner.

According to HMV, one of the country's main record retailers with 200 stores nationwide, Pink Floyd's "Echoes" album posted a staggering 1,343 percent increase in sales on Sunday compared with the same day a week ago.

The band re-formed for the Live 8 concert in London's Hyde Park, where they joined pop legends Paul McCartney, Madonna, U2 and Elton John among others in front of 200,000 people
"Even allowing for the relative nature of this exercise ... this snapshot still shows that the Live 8 concert is having a marked effect on sales of featured artist recordings," said Gennaro Castaldo spokesman for the HMV chain.

He stressed that the increase for Pink Floyd and other acts appearing in Hyde Park was partly due to the small number of records sold on Sunday, June 26. Total sales of the album on Sunday, July 3, the day after Live 8, were approaching 1,000.

Next came The Who's "Then & Now", with an increase of 863 percent, Annie Lennox's "Eurythmics Greatest Hits" (500 percent) and Dido's "Life For Rent" (412 percent).

Ironically, Coldplay's "X&Y", which has stormed the charts in Britain and the United States, registered one of the smallest increases out of the London Live 8 acts at just three percent.

But according to HMV, the band still sold the highest number of copies at more than 2,800.

The only Live 8 performer to have clocked a drop in sales was Pete Doherty. His former group the Libertines saw sales of their "Up the Bracket" album drop by 35 percent.

Doherty's performance was singled out by the media as one of the worst of the nine-hour Hyde Park music marathon.

The Mirror tabloid called his duet with Elton John "shambolic".

Reporters at the gig said he struggled with the words of the classic song "Children of the Revolution" and looked unsteady on his feet.

Virgin Megastores, another major music outlet, could not immediately be reached for comment on post-Live 8 sales
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Saint Paul once said something to the effect of, "I care not whether Jesus is preached for money; all I care is that he is preached." Since the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, it stands to reason that not all intentions for this event were completely pure. But what does it matter, in the end, if good is achieved, whether because or in spite of artist's motivations?
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I THINK PINK FLOYD JUST USED LIVE 8 FOR MONEY!

SOON THEY WILL COME OUT WITH A NEW ALBUM AND GO ON TOUR...YOU'LL SEE!

THEY'RE JUST USING LIVE 8 FOR THEIR OWN GAIN.
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According to HMV, one of the country's main record retailers with 200 stores nationwide, Pink Floyd's "Echoes" album posted a staggering 1,343 percent increase in sales on Sunday compared with the same day a week ago.
Hahaha! Blimey!
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ok lets turn the situation around

how much has live 8 RUINED Pete Doherty career?

whilst there has been alot of media attention surrounding his relationships and drug addiction etc when his had the biggest opportunity (and audience)to prove himself, he blew it, thus deflating the hype into a small whimper.


i hope i'm not sounding like jick and his half baked theories surrounding larrys apology for the tickets (i probably am)
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how much has live 8 RUINED Pete Doherty career?

that can only be a good thing, as far as i'm concerned.
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i love to see those sales numbers going up,....i will find them in the 2hand bin next year.



BTW, i think the record companies are making the figures rise by taking advantage of the bands that are playing on live8
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Acts see album sales soar after Live 8 gigs

LONDON (Reuters) - They came out of charity. They left with booming record sales.

The galaxy of rock stars who took part in Live 8 concerts on Saturday to help beat the curse of poverty have seen their records fly off the shelves in British music stores, proving that cash balances as well as consciences were the winner.

According to HMV, one of the country's main record retailers with 200 stores nationwide, Pink Floyd's "Echoes" album posted a staggering 1,343 percent increase in sales on Sunday compared with the same day a week ago.

The band re-formed for the Live 8 concert in London's Hyde Park, where they joined pop legends Paul McCartney, Madonna, U2 and Elton John among others in front of 200,000 people
"Even allowing for the relative nature of this exercise ... this snapshot still shows that the Live 8 concert is having a marked effect on sales of featured artist recordings," said Gennaro Castaldo spokesman for the HMV chain.

He stressed that the increase for Pink Floyd and other acts appearing in Hyde Park was partly due to the small number of records sold on Sunday, June 26. Total sales of the album on Sunday, July 3, the day after Live 8, were approaching 1,000.

Next came The Who's "Then & Now", with an increase of 863 percent, Annie Lennox's "Eurythmics Greatest Hits" (500 percent) and Dido's "Life For Rent" (412 percent).

Nothing like a bit of Chariteeeeee to get your record sales soaring. Who says the bands play for free!
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ok lets turn the situation around

how much has live 8 RUINED Pete Doherty career?

Has Pete Doherty ever had a career. Talentless twat if ever I see one!
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Has Pete Doherty ever had a career. Talentless twat if ever I see one!
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Has Pete Doherty ever had a career. Talentless twat if ever I see one!

Further confirmation of your vanilla taste..Doherty is brilliant.
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Further confirmation of your vanilla taste..Doherty is brilliant.
Jesus if you think he is brilliant, kinda backs up my theory on your musical taste. That was a REALLY great version of Children Of The Revolution at live8, NOT, a mumbling bumbling drug addicted nobhead who was not fit to walk the same stage as the legends that preceded and followed him!, Hey I know why Pete Doherty is famous, he's dating Kate Moss
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Good to see that Pink Floyd want to donate all the added record sales that they are getting after live8, their sales went up over 1000%. I bet most of the other artists won't be doing the same!!
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Pink Floyd certainly didn't need to boost record sales...their back catalogue sells well enough to keep all of them PLENTY rich reunion or no. David Gilmour gave away a ~$6M house to a London homeless shelter a couple years ago and has been selling cars left and right, saying he has "way too much money" and doesn't need all the material possessions.

I am glad they are donating this windfall to charities but they've been doing so for quite some time. While some artists may have used Live 8, most - like PF - were there for the cause and had good intentions.
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