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DrTeeth said:
I love the video, but hate the remix version of the song they used for the video. The album version is so much better.
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I love the video, but hate the remix version of the song they used for the video. The album version is so much better.
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corianderstem said:
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Aygo
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corianderstem said:
Oh no, the album version is so fucking lame, it seems that it doesn't match with the lyrics.
At least that remix gives a big punch in the stomach with the video.
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Not everything needs a techno beat, and this song definitely did NOT need it.
I can't even imagine what you find lame about the album version - I think it fits perfectly with the feel of the rest of the album.
I can't even imagine what you find lame about the album version - I think it fits perfectly with the feel of the rest of the album.
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I thought this article really responded well to those who think Madonna doesn't deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23298744/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23298744/
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Trent has JT's induction speech. It was slightly better than I thought but I can still think of several dozen people who would have absolutely rocked this opportunity. I think I may have to write my own induction speech just for the fun of it.
Ok, shut up, it's not about me tonight. Madonna ... Madonna will be out of the music business in six months (noise from the audience) ... just let me finish. 'Her voice is like Minnie Mouse on helium.' 'Comparing Marilyn Monroe to Madonna is like comparing Raquel Welch to the back of a bus.' That's what they were saying about Madonna 25 years ago, I don't think any of them around to say it tonight. See a strange thing happens when you are asked to induct Madonna into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. First, of course, you're overwhelmingly honored because there is and will only every be one Madonna. But then, but then, you become aware that every single word you can possibly imagine saying about Madonna suddenly sounds much hotter, much dirtier and a whole hell of lot more fun. 'Induct her? Why, yes, I'd love to.' 'Enter the hall. Every chance I get.' With all do respect to the fine city of Cleveland, even that place sounds slight erotic knowing that Madonna is going to be 'entering the hall' just as soon as I have the pleasure of personally inducting her. And though I'm pretty sure that Little Richard would disagree, the truth is that nobody has ever gotten into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while still looking this damn fine. Madonna, you're taking your rightful place in this hall but I'll just go on record saying you're no old museum piece. But tonight, tonight is not just a chance for me to come to Madonna (I said 'come on to', that's terrible) ... tonight is a moment to pause and consider the singular impact of this woman. Madonna has changed the way our world sounded, she's changed the way our world looked and somehow she still found time to publicly kiss at least someone who I may or may not have kissed myself ... while I was in the audience, yeah, course you know I'm all talking about Sean Penn. They're jokes! They, they're jokes! For longer than I can remember, back before breastfeeding, Madonna has been causing a stir, usually well-timed for the release of her latest album and making our culture a more provocative and interesting place. When she first appeared on the scene a sultry, dance-pop act dressed in lace and fishnet stockings, Madonna captured the attention of women and men with a certain downtown thrift store chic that was all her own ... until millions tried to jump on her bandwagon. Back then, few would have predicted that all these years later, and she politely but firmly forbid me to count, she would remain one of the most popular and crowd-pleasing acts all around the world. Yet, Madonna hasn't become one of music's greatest stories ever told just by shocking us at regular intervals, she's done it by working harder and being smarter than everybody else. As she made MTV the place to be seen, she racked up the greatest track-record in music history -- 47 Top 40 hits. That's almost one for every year that she's been alive, give or take a few ... but ... I told her I was gonna jab her a little bit. Anyways, the point is this is a singing, dancing, writing, promoting, achieving superstar who became the biggest name on the planet the old fashioned way -- she earned it. The success story of Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, the daughter of Madonna Louise and Tony P. Ciccone, from Bay City, Michigan is a one-of-a-kind and truly global. Like most great artists, Madonna didn't have the easiest of childhoods but she found her way to New York City, a place that seemed to suit her incredible style and energy. She studied dance with Alvin Ailey and even toured with a disco act called The Patrick Hernandez Review. Madonna has always proudly let her dance music roots show. Dance music often expresses joy, and the joy of sex but Madonna drew upon its power to spread a message that suggests that she was never really a 'material girl'. Her tracks have always been fresh with an ever-changing sense of style and groove yet taken as a whole, her shapely body of work told a story and offered a transcendent message of hope and empowerment that managed to be spiritual and sensual. Madonna's music dared you, hell it ordered you, to express yourself, to open your heart, to cherish and to justify her love. Whatever pose she was striking, at any given moment, Madonna has remained both a familiar friend and a beautiful stranger. She's consistently evoked the past with an edge that felt shockingly new. She bravely mixed and matched the sacred and the profane. She may have been in some way like a virgin but there was never any doubt this is a woman of experience. 'Sex' is not just the name of some book she wrote and there's never been any question about who's running Madonna's career. She's always been a woman on top and I'm sure fully enjoying that position. And that's true today, whether that's in her position as singer, song writer, dancer, producer, author, director, wife or mother. I co-wrote and co-produced half of the tracks on her new record entitled 'Hard Candy'. And naturally when I tell people that they're always asking me what it's reeeeally like to work with Madonna. Is she the control freak that everyone says she is? And I'm gonna tell ya, hell yeah. As a matter of fact, I wanna tell a little story really quick -- one day, in London, I showed up to the studio and (it's prolly because of the freakin' schedule she had us under) but I was feeling a little ill, I was feeling under the weather and she could tell and she said, 'You're not feeling too well today?' and I said, 'Noooo not too well today.' and she said, 'Well, would you like a B12 shot? We could get a B12 shot.' and I was like, 'Yeah, I'd love a B12 shot.' That's the first thing I thought of. And, uh, and so I'm thinking, right, that we're gonna call it a doctor and he's gonna make a house-call [mumbling] Here's a B12 shot. And, uh, then she proceeds to reach into her designer handbag and, uh, pull a Zip-Lock bag of B12 syringes out. And then she looks at me with that face that she looks at people with and she says to me, 'Drop 'em.' I don't ... I don't know what you say to that so I immediately dropped my pants. This is a true story by the way, I swear I'm not making this up. So, uh, she gives me the B12 shot, in my ass and then she looks at me and she says, 'Nice top shelf.' And that was one of the greatest days of my life. But, I guess in my own cheesy way I got to thinkin' I would tell this story because I figured that's exactly what Madonna is and will continue to be for all of us -- the shot in the ass when we really needed it. Her upcoming single from her new album is called '4 Minutes to Save the World' and, in a sense, that's what Madonna has always done -- save the world, one great four minute song at a time. Ladies and gentlemen, the world has long been full of Madonna wannabes, and I might have even dated a couple, but there is, but there is only one Madonna. So right now, it is one of the true thrills and privileges of my life to stand on this stage and induct Madonna into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Ok, shut up, it's not about me tonight. Madonna ... Madonna will be out of the music business in six months (noise from the audience) ... just let me finish. 'Her voice is like Minnie Mouse on helium.' 'Comparing Marilyn Monroe to Madonna is like comparing Raquel Welch to the back of a bus.' That's what they were saying about Madonna 25 years ago, I don't think any of them around to say it tonight. See a strange thing happens when you are asked to induct Madonna into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. First, of course, you're overwhelmingly honored because there is and will only every be one Madonna. But then, but then, you become aware that every single word you can possibly imagine saying about Madonna suddenly sounds much hotter, much dirtier and a whole hell of lot more fun. 'Induct her? Why, yes, I'd love to.' 'Enter the hall. Every chance I get.' With all do respect to the fine city of Cleveland, even that place sounds slight erotic knowing that Madonna is going to be 'entering the hall' just as soon as I have the pleasure of personally inducting her. And though I'm pretty sure that Little Richard would disagree, the truth is that nobody has ever gotten into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while still looking this damn fine. Madonna, you're taking your rightful place in this hall but I'll just go on record saying you're no old museum piece. But tonight, tonight is not just a chance for me to come to Madonna (I said 'come on to', that's terrible) ... tonight is a moment to pause and consider the singular impact of this woman. Madonna has changed the way our world sounded, she's changed the way our world looked and somehow she still found time to publicly kiss at least someone who I may or may not have kissed myself ... while I was in the audience, yeah, course you know I'm all talking about Sean Penn. They're jokes! They, they're jokes! For longer than I can remember, back before breastfeeding, Madonna has been causing a stir, usually well-timed for the release of her latest album and making our culture a more provocative and interesting place. When she first appeared on the scene a sultry, dance-pop act dressed in lace and fishnet stockings, Madonna captured the attention of women and men with a certain downtown thrift store chic that was all her own ... until millions tried to jump on her bandwagon. Back then, few would have predicted that all these years later, and she politely but firmly forbid me to count, she would remain one of the most popular and crowd-pleasing acts all around the world. Yet, Madonna hasn't become one of music's greatest stories ever told just by shocking us at regular intervals, she's done it by working harder and being smarter than everybody else. As she made MTV the place to be seen, she racked up the greatest track-record in music history -- 47 Top 40 hits. That's almost one for every year that she's been alive, give or take a few ... but ... I told her I was gonna jab her a little bit. Anyways, the point is this is a singing, dancing, writing, promoting, achieving superstar who became the biggest name on the planet the old fashioned way -- she earned it. The success story of Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, the daughter of Madonna Louise and Tony P. Ciccone, from Bay City, Michigan is a one-of-a-kind and truly global. Like most great artists, Madonna didn't have the easiest of childhoods but she found her way to New York City, a place that seemed to suit her incredible style and energy. She studied dance with Alvin Ailey and even toured with a disco act called The Patrick Hernandez Review. Madonna has always proudly let her dance music roots show. Dance music often expresses joy, and the joy of sex but Madonna drew upon its power to spread a message that suggests that she was never really a 'material girl'. Her tracks have always been fresh with an ever-changing sense of style and groove yet taken as a whole, her shapely body of work told a story and offered a transcendent message of hope and empowerment that managed to be spiritual and sensual. Madonna's music dared you, hell it ordered you, to express yourself, to open your heart, to cherish and to justify her love. Whatever pose she was striking, at any given moment, Madonna has remained both a familiar friend and a beautiful stranger. She's consistently evoked the past with an edge that felt shockingly new. She bravely mixed and matched the sacred and the profane. She may have been in some way like a virgin but there was never any doubt this is a woman of experience. 'Sex' is not just the name of some book she wrote and there's never been any question about who's running Madonna's career. She's always been a woman on top and I'm sure fully enjoying that position. And that's true today, whether that's in her position as singer, song writer, dancer, producer, author, director, wife or mother. I co-wrote and co-produced half of the tracks on her new record entitled 'Hard Candy'. And naturally when I tell people that they're always asking me what it's reeeeally like to work with Madonna. Is she the control freak that everyone says she is? And I'm gonna tell ya, hell yeah. As a matter of fact, I wanna tell a little story really quick -- one day, in London, I showed up to the studio and (it's prolly because of the freakin' schedule she had us under) but I was feeling a little ill, I was feeling under the weather and she could tell and she said, 'You're not feeling too well today?' and I said, 'Noooo not too well today.' and she said, 'Well, would you like a B12 shot? We could get a B12 shot.' and I was like, 'Yeah, I'd love a B12 shot.' That's the first thing I thought of. And, uh, and so I'm thinking, right, that we're gonna call it a doctor and he's gonna make a house-call [mumbling] Here's a B12 shot. And, uh, then she proceeds to reach into her designer handbag and, uh, pull a Zip-Lock bag of B12 syringes out. And then she looks at me with that face that she looks at people with and she says to me, 'Drop 'em.' I don't ... I don't know what you say to that so I immediately dropped my pants. This is a true story by the way, I swear I'm not making this up. So, uh, she gives me the B12 shot, in my ass and then she looks at me and she says, 'Nice top shelf.' And that was one of the greatest days of my life. But, I guess in my own cheesy way I got to thinkin' I would tell this story because I figured that's exactly what Madonna is and will continue to be for all of us -- the shot in the ass when we really needed it. Her upcoming single from her new album is called '4 Minutes to Save the World' and, in a sense, that's what Madonna has always done -- save the world, one great four minute song at a time. Ladies and gentlemen, the world has long been full of Madonna wannabes, and I might have even dated a couple, but there is, but there is only one Madonna. So right now, it is one of the true thrills and privileges of my life to stand on this stage and induct Madonna into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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I thought he did a pretty good job, but then again I love Justin.
I do wish someone else that was already a "legend", would've done it, but, oh well. The Sean Penn line made me literally LOL.
I do wish someone else that was already a "legend", would've done it, but, oh well. The Sean Penn line made me literally LOL.
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corianderstem said:
You're my hero...again.
I abhor the single mix, and was so pissed when they used it for the single. Lyrically and musically, I think the album version is one of Madge's most powerful tracks, in my Top 5 (at most) of her songs.
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lazarus said:
You're my hero...again.
I abhor the single mix, and was so pissed when they used it for the single. Lyrically and musically, I think the album version is one of Madge's most powerful tracks, in my Top 5 (at most) of her songs.
The album version is perfection.
I thought the video kicked ass too. I believe that's one video for each decade of her career that MTV banned. Well done, Madonna.
80s: Like A Prayer (greatest music video of all time)
90s: Justify My Love
00s: What It Feels Like For A Girl
corianderstem
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I live to serve, laz. 
Does anyone know if the plain old VH-1 will interrupt their busy schedule of crap to air even an edited version of the R&R Ceremony?
Does anyone know if the plain old VH-1 will interrupt their busy schedule of crap to air even an edited version of the R&R Ceremony?
dsmith2904
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You can find times for the full and edited versions here.
corianderstem
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Thanks! 
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Am I the only one that loved Madonna's hair last night?
Lila64
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Was there any reason given as to why Madonna didn't perform? And did she choose Iggy Pop to perform her songs or what? 
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Lila64 said:Was there any reason given as to why Madonna didn't perform? And did she choose Iggy Pop to perform her songs or what?
I haven't heard an official reason given, they just said she wouldn't perform and that she'd chosen Iggy Pop to cover a couple of her songs. Her voice sounded like it was giving out last night even when she was speaking, so maybe she figured she wouldn't be able to sing. I know she just finished recording the album not long ago because she wanted to make some last minute changes, so maybe she's just strained it or something. I really wish she would've performed though.
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I love "Express Yourself" and I'm totally addicted to "Open Your Heart." I think her 80s stuff was pretty great too... who can forget "Borderline"?
Her cover of American Pie was trashed but I still love it
Her cover of American Pie was trashed but I still love it
Aygo
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I already saw the cover of the new single "4 Minutes" ("4 Minutes To Save The World" was a much better title).
The cover has Madonna and Justin in a normal pose and the graphism could be made for a 12 yr old kid in any programm.
Negative note for the single cover (if it's really the final thing).
The cover has Madonna and Justin in a normal pose and the graphism could be made for a 12 yr old kid in any programm.
Negative note for the single cover (if it's really the final thing).
dsmith2904
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Here's the cover:
I love her boots.
I love her boots.
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I think she looks gorgeous. I wish Justin would shave though. He has too much of a baby face for facial hair.
Aygo
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Comparing to all Madonna's singles covers... this is definitely one of the worse and less inspired one. The picture is bland and the graphism could've been made by 12 yr old kid on Paint.
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^I think that would've been a bigger deal 10 or more years ago, when people still bought CDs on a regular basis, but a grand majority of people don't anymore, especially singles. I don't really know anyone my age that has ever bought a single before, and come to think of it, I don't really know anyone who has bought CD singles in recent years. With iTunes and all the other digital music stores, I don't think most people really care about stuff like that anymore.
Aygo
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That's not my point.
Some (few) people still collect it. They're always the object of appreciation. And the cover of something is always important, whether the product is too or not.
"4 Minutes" simply has a very poor cover comparing to many other Madonna covers.
Some (few) people still collect it. They're always the object of appreciation. And the cover of something is always important, whether the product is too or not.
"4 Minutes" simply has a very poor cover comparing to many other Madonna covers.
corianderstem
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Madonna looks great, but other than that, I don't really care for the cover myself.
dsmith2904
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New album cover:
It'll be interesting to see how all this boxing stuff plays out on her concert tour.
It'll be interesting to see how all this boxing stuff plays out on her concert tour.
corianderstem
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Wow, I really don't like that cover.
lazarus
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Madonna Say Knock You Out!
Yeah...not crazy about it. And I loved the artwork for Confessions...
Whatever, Justin's co-writing and producing a good portion of it, so I'm not too worried.
Yeah...not crazy about it. And I loved the artwork for Confessions...
Whatever, Justin's co-writing and producing a good portion of it, so I'm not too worried.
phanan
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One word: ugh.
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I'm not a big fan of the cover, but coming from a straight female, her body is ridiculous.
lazarus
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Coming from a straight male, I agree.
dsmith2904
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From Perez:
Madonna's new single, 4 Minutes To Save The World, will debut in a new Sunsilk shampoo commercial on March 17th ... The spot will reportedly trace Madonna's ever-evolving look throughout the years as a means to inspire girls to play around with their current styles.
Madonna's new single, 4 Minutes To Save The World, will debut in a new Sunsilk shampoo commercial on March 17th ... The spot will reportedly trace Madonna's ever-evolving look throughout the years as a means to inspire girls to play around with their current styles.
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