Kanye West discussion

[cobl04]

PAPERMAG: Kanye West: In His Own Words

 

[DaveC]

I listened to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy today for the first time.

It's really fucking good.

 

[cobl04]

The first time?!?!! What the fuck have you been doing with your life?

 

[DaveC]

Wasting it, apparently.

 

[cobl04]

It's pretty fucking close to perfect, honestly. When your least favourite song on the album is the centrepiece (Runaway), you know you've got an all-time favourite.

 

[LemonMelon]

Runaway is so much better than Hell of a Life, at least.

 

[lazarus]

Yep.

And Blame Game.

Though Hell Of A Life is far away my least favorite.

 

[cobl04]

If we're talking about the single edit then sure. But it starts getting bloated after about the four-minute mark. Hell of a Life has wicked lyrics and a huge beat, Blame Game samples Aphex Twin, John Legend sounds great and the skit's pretty damn funny.

 

[LemonMelon]

Bloated, maybe. Vulnerable, unique and real, absolutely. The harsh distortion on each inhalation sounds awesome and makes you feel you're in the room with Ye. The autotune is so much more intimate than a guitar solo would have been and provides a personal moment with listeners in the center of one of the most cinematic records in recent memory. Bold choices like that are what make Kanye such a renowned artist.

I don't like the track as much as DIAND, Power, AOTL or LITW, but it's worth all of the hype. The album is just that good.

 

[cobl04]

Don't get me wrong here, I love the song and the reasons you listed there are all totally valid and pretty true. It's just that it's my least favourite on what is an all-time great album.

 

[DaveC]

The autotune is so much more intimate than a guitar solo would have been and provides a personal moment with listeners in the center of one of the most cinematic records in recent memory. Bold choices like that are what make Kanye such a renowned artist.

Clearly you're wrong and the only reason Kanye uses so much autotune is because he is physically incapable of singing in pitch. Also, he's a talentless hack. Autotune as an artistic choice, yeah right. Real musicians like The Beatles sure didn't need any wacky effects in their music! What scum.

Spoiler

did I do that right?

 

[cobl04]

Spot on mate.

 

[nielsgov]

Favorite songs on MBDTF:
1. So Appalled
2. Dark Fantasy
3. Blame Game

But every song is fantastic really. The autotune bit in Runaway doesn't bother me but I can't say I really enjoy it. It's the equivalent of long outros in rock songs for me.

 

[cobl04]

My favourite two are Devil in a New Dress and Gorgeous. Both are so underrated because Monster, Power and All of the Lights were so huge. Those are all great songs but it's a shame those other tracks often get overlooked. The former is my fav Ye song, bar none, and the latter features what I consider to be Kanye's best set of lyrics and most impressive rapping.

 

[nielsgov]

I love this lyric: I treat the cash the way the government treats AIDS. I won't be satisfied until all my niggas get it, get it?

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[cobl04]

His new album is now called Swish, as per his Twitter. "I might change it again but that's the name now"

 

[bono_212]

No, it's called SWISH, get it right.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Haha, I like that title.

Just release the damn thing now.

 

[cobl04]

One of my favourite comedians has a hilarious bit on Bound 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_azYJCx4vI

 

[nielsgov]

Ha that's great.

 

[DaveC]

EDIT: Derp, wrong thread

 

[Cancer45]

honestly I think kanye's head and heart is not in music anyone

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

I think I understand where you're coming from with that, but it's hard for me to agree when the last album he released was so fucking strong. Yeezus is a killer work. I like it as much as anything he's ever done.

 

[LemonMelon]

Some of the seams show, but Yeezus is about as creative and forward-thinking as it gets for mainstream music of any kind. I think Kanye still gives a damn.

 

[cobl04]

I agree, he's said exactly that in interviews, but he's still making such good music that it doesn't bother me too much.

 

[nielsgov]

I hope the longer than expected wait for his new album is because he noticed those autotuned songs are pretty shit. And saying his heart isn't into music any more is pretty ridiculous since he released his last album two years ago and he's on the verge of releasing another one.

 

[cobl04]

I really, really like Only One.

My theory is that he got spooked by how good To Pimp a Butterfly is and so retreated to work on the new album some more.

 

[LemonMelon]

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/577598700354162688

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/577635990107394048

No question, he had Kendrick on the brain. I'm sure there were other, more practical reasons for delaying the album (surprise dropping in the same 30 days as Kendrick, Drake, Earl, Action Bronson, etc. would have been a mistake), but I've always seen Kanye as a competitive guy. If he starts a Beatles/Beach Boys-esque rivalry with Kendrick, we'll all be better off.

 

[cobl04]

Even I'd struggle with this.

Kanye West to Perform 808s & Heartbreaks in Full at One-Off Show | News | Pitchfork

 

[nielsgov]

Just release the album, Kanye.