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Old 04-20-2016, 08:03 PM   #21
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Harriet Tubman New Face of the $20

In case anyone was morbidly curious, the argument for keeping Jackson on the twenty is that we're whitewashing history. And, besides, our founding fathers had checkered pasts too, right? No big deal.

I'd argue that there's a difference between "checkered past" and "genocidal." But, you know. I'm preaching to the choir.
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How much you want to bet the same people griping about this see no problem with school textbooks that "edit out" notable non-white figures in history, or minimizing the impact of slavery (or calling it something else altogether), or whatever?

Sigh. Is it sad that I'm not even remotely surprised there'd be idiots coming out of the woodwork to make a comment about this?
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I just accidentally opened an article about this on Facebook, I didn't pay attention to who posted it, and it was from Fox News, the comment section made me sick to my stomach.


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I read some comments and some lady was upset they took a "Founding Father" off the $20. Seriously.

But yeah, they are complaining of whitewashing. Like somehow if he's not on the front of the 20 no one will learn about him. Ugh.

Or they bring up the fact that the actual founding fathers were slave owners so the "left" will come after them next. Sigh.
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I read some comments and some lady was upset they took a "Founding Father" off the $20. Seriously.

But yeah, they are complaining of whitewashing. Like somehow if he's not on the front of the 20 no one will learn about him. Ugh.

Or they bring up the fact that the actual founding fathers were slave owners so the "left" will come after them next. Sigh.
History should only remember him for the atrocity he was responsible for.




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Ahh I get you. Though given that Jackson owned slaves and Tubman escaped slavery, isn't she still a bit of a fuck you to him?
I mean, yeah, a bit. Slavery is/was terrible. It's just... Yeah... Genocide. I don't care who's on the bill, if it gets people talking about this.
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One is the systematic destruction of a race, the other is the systematic abuse of a race and Jackson contributed to both.

All things considered, Tubman is a much more appropriate choice than Susan B Anthony at least.
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Wasn't she an SJW?

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I'm just by and large frustrated because I don't feel like we've done enough as a country, at all, to address the situation with Native Americans.
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Unfortunately, Jackson is still staying on the $20 bill, just being moved to the back. I'd happily put literally any Native American figure there instead of him.

Jackson really bothers me. He was a really, really, really horrible president, and his actions against Native Americans stand out to me as exceptionally terrible even by the standards of the day. But maybe that's the liberal propaganda of my AP US History education from all those years ago getting to me.
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Wait... What... He's staying?

Fuck everything

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Wait... What... He's staying?

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Yeah.

Treasury Decides To Put Harriet Tubman On $20 Bill : The Two-Way : NPR

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In a statement, the Treasury also announced that the new $20 note will keep an image of Jackson, who was a slaveholder, on the back. The new $10 bill will keep Hamilton on the front but in the back feature "an image of the historic march for suffrage that ended on the steps of the Treasury Department." Leaders of that movement — Lucretia Mott, Sojourner Truth, Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Alice Paul — will be honored in the image.
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Unfortunately, Jackson is still staying on the $20 bill, just being moved to the back. I'd happily put literally any Native American figure there instead of him.
Putting a slaveowner on the same bill as a famous abolitionist is fucking disgusting. They do understand that, right?

Are they making a statement by putting a slaveowner on the less notable side of the bill? Because until they rectify this, that will be my extremely optimistic interpretation.
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Why are they glorifying him at all...fuuuucckk.

Today did one thing for me, though, I'm going to start looking for ways to get more involved in whatever organizations I might be able to, to maybe find a way to help with Native American causes. Stop being a hypocrite myself and see what I can do.
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I read some comments and some lady was upset they took a "Founding Father" off the $20. Seriously.

But yeah, they are complaining of whitewashing. Like somehow if he's not on the front of the 20 no one will learn about him. Ugh.

Or they bring up the fact that the actual founding fathers were slave owners so the "left" will come after them next. Sigh.

Yeah, if I had received a $20 for every comment that was absolutely factually incorrect; I'd be able to buy a nice house. If I got one for every racist comment; I could retire.


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Putting a slaveowner on the same bill as a famous abolitionist is fucking disgusting.
My immediate reaction to that news:

Yeeeeeeeah, I too would really like to hear an explanation/reason for that decision.
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Unfortunately, Jackson is still staying on the $20 bill, just being moved to the back. I'd happily put literally any Native American figure there instead of him.

Jackson really bothers me. He was a really, really, really horrible president, and his actions against Native Americans stand out to me as exceptionally terrible even by the standards of the day. But maybe that's the liberal propaganda of my AP US History education from all those years ago getting to me.

This is fucked. Good thing I don't use cash that much.


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Putting a slaveowner on the same bill as a famous abolitionist is fucking disgusting. They do understand that, right?

Are they making a statement by putting a slaveowner on the less notable side of the bill? Because until they rectify this, that will be my extremely optimistic interpretation.
Part of me thinks that this is a sassy move to make a point by relegating Jackson to the back of a bill fronted by a former slave.
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Harriet Tubman New Face of the $20

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Are they making a statement by putting a slaveowner on the less notable side of the bill? Because until they rectify this, that will be my extremely optimistic interpretation.

I'd have to see it to judge it, but this was actually my immediate interpretation upon hearing that.
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I was very excited to hear this until I read that he's staying on the bill. Sickening.
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I'm really surprised to see how angry people are about something that seems so positive... it's symbolic, which is already not worth a whole lot.
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I'm really surprised to see how angry people are about something that seems so positive... it's symbolic, which is already not worth a whole lot.

I agree to a certain point, but "not worth a lot", really? How many currency changes have been made in your or your parents lifetime? It's a huge symbolic change.


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