Random Music Talk LVIII: The Moon And Antarctica

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I like them a great deal. I've seen them live 4 times-ish, and they've been fantastic each time. Last album was a bit of a snoozer, but still had a couple really fun tracks.

Side note, in the old days, essentially every regular in Bang and Clatter adored them. Then they became popular...
 
Yeah, I think there are 2 or 3 songs I like a lot on it. I just hardly ever listen to it as much as I do the previous two.
 
Crazy beef going on right now between Wayne Coyne and Erykah Badu.

It's over the video the Lips did for "First Time Ever I Saw Your Face", from the Heady Fwends album. The video's been taken down, but apparently it featured Erykah's younger sister naked, covered in glitter and fake blood and cum.

Erykah, it's fair to say, was not happy.

@waynecoyne then... perhaps, next time u get an occasion to work with an artist who respects your mind/art, you should send at least a ROUGh version of the video u PLAN to release b4 u manipulate or compromise the artist's brand by desperately releasing a poor excuse for shock and nudity that sends a convoluted message that passes as art( to some).
Even with Window Seat there was a method and thought process involved. I have not one need for publicity . I just love artistic dialogue . And just because an image is shocking does not make it art.
You obviously have a misconception of who I am artistically. I don't mind that but...
By the way you are an ass.
Yu did everything wrong from the on set .
First:
You showed me a concept of beautiful tasteful imagery( by way of vid text messages) .
I trusted that. I was mistaken.
Then u release an unedited, unapproved version within the next few days.
That all spells 1 thing ,
Self Serving .
When asked what the concept
meant after u explained it , u replied ,"it doesn't mean anything , I just want to make a great video that everyone is going to watch. "
I understood , because as an artist we all desire that. But we don't all do it at another artist's expense .
I attempted to resolve this respectfully by having conversations with u after the release but that too proved to be a poor excuse for art.
From jump,
You begged me to sit in a tub of that other shit and I said naw. I refused to sit in any liquid that was not water. But Out of RESPECT for you and the artist you 'appear' to be, I Didn't wanna kill your concept , wanted u to at least get it out of your head . After all, u spent your dough on studio , trip to Dallas etc.. Sooo, I invited Nayrok , my lil sis and artist, who is much more liberal ,to be subject of those other disturbing (to me ) scenes . I told u from jump that I believed your concept to be disturbing. But would give your edit a chance.
You then said u would take my shots ( in clear water/ fully covered parts -seemed harmless enough) and Nayrok's part ( which I was not present for but saw the photos and a sample scene of cornstarch dripping ) and edit them together along with cosmic, green screen images ( which no one saw) then would show me the edit. .
Instead, U disrespected me by releasing pics and rough vid on the internet without my approval. (Contract breech )
That is equivalent to putting out a security camera's images of me changing in the fitting room.
I never would have approved that tasteless, meaningless, shock motivated video .
Our art is a reflection of who we are . I have no connection to those images shot in their raw version. I was interested in seeing an amazing edit that would perhaps change or alter my thoughts . Never happened .
You also did the same thing with the song itself which displays crappy "rough "vocals by me . I let it go , perhaps iiiii was missing something, I thought.
I Should have followed my first mind back in studio when recording the vocals "your way".
( Red flag.) It was uncomfortable.
For that I am at fault .
Consequently, brother, As a human I am disgusted with your what appears to be desperation and poor execution. And disregard for others . As a director I am unimpressed . As a sociologist I understand your type. As your fellow artist I am uninspired. As a woman I feel violated and underestimated.
Hope it works out for ya ,Wayne.
Really i could give a shit less.
Still love your live show tho.
And , you're welcomed.
Lesson learned .
By the way I have guested in very few videos. But I have always been given the opportunity to see the edit and contribute to it when my roll is substantial. Not this time .
I guess u feel it better to apologize than ask for permission and be refused . Hey, Love u man, but your ways are not very nice .
O, And on behalf of all the artists u have manipulated or plan to manipulate, find another way .
These things have been said out of necessity.
And if you don't like it
you can KiSS MY Glittery ASS .
O and Nayrok told me to tell u to kiss her ass too .
Almost forgot.
Peace

Ms. Badu
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bono_212 said:
Went to the doctor because my kneecap apparently slipped out of place the other day. I've had chronic joint pain since I was 12, so this kind of just was a go with the flow thing for me at first, but I've had a lot of tenseness ever since. Anyways, the doctor was all like, "well, your knee is fine, but the chronic joint thing bothers me." I know we've discussed this in here before, but I told her that I've had tests done and every thing and nothing's ever come back positive. She was really nice and ran more blood work for me and even followed up with a call just now about getting a brace for my knee. Yay good doctors.
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Owie. That sucks. But yes, yay for good doctors. Here's to getting that issue fixed as quickly as possible.

u2popmofo said:
Here's to also hoping the Muse thread is less Pleba-y for this album.
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If some guys here post more often in there maybe it won't be as common :shrug:.

Anywho, I'm looking forward to the new Muse stuff. I liked their last album myself, and from what I've heard about their plans for the new one I'm dying to hear how they pull it off.

Also, I only know a couple Mumford & Sons songs, but I like them.
 
If Wayne told her the video was going to be one thing (i.e., "as discussed, here you are in your naked glory"), and then they released something that was not that thing (i.e., "as not discussed, here you are covered in jizz"), that is totally not okay.
 
corianderstem said:
If Wayne told her the video was going to be one thing (i.e., "as discussed, here you are in your naked glory"), and then they released something that was not that thing (i.e., "as not discussed, now you are covered in jizz"), that is totally not okay.
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Apparently it was not an official video and p4k posted it before it had been "approved". But the Lips and pitchfork seem to have a pretty close relationship, so who knows. Wayne's last two tweets to her are typically non-serious.
 
Oh, were Wayne's tweets somewhere in that text block? I thought that was all from Badu.

Just saw his Twitter - he's retweeting people bagging on her.

I am disappoint, Mr. Coyne.
 
Remastered Exile on Main Street really kicks. I almost miss some of the grime.

I'm not sure there's a "double album" that flies by more quickly.
 
Yeah, I'll pass on watching the video.

I don't see this on his Twitter now, but from this article, he apparently said this:

http://popcultureblog.dallasnews.co...-shocking-video-for-western-esotericism.html/

“To all the haters who think Erykah Badu has lost her mind!!! She has NOT!!!” he wrote a few hours ago, over the course of several tweets. “The Flaming Lips take full responsibility for the making of and the content of the controversial video !!! We are very sorry if it has offended some of Erykah Badu’s more Conservative audience! The video was intended for mature audiences and is NOT an Erykah Badu statement. It is a Flaming Lips video!!!

Sorry if it offended her audience? Excuse me, Mr. Flips, but the woman just said she felt violated by what you did (and if things went down the way she claims, which he seems to support, I can totally see why she felt that way). I do believe you should be apologizing to her.

I'm really bothered by this. I thought he was cool about, you know, respecting people.
 
He's being a bit of a dick now, thanking Badu for the increase in hits and retweeting the haters. Entertaining to watch though, his wife is in on it now, telling Badu her husband has the ass of a 26yo :lol:
 
If my stupid effing browser would let me on the site (bish, do NOT tell me it's trying to send me to another site, I know it's not!), I'd take to the Twitter to give Wayne my two cents.

That'll learn 'im.
 
Wayne is cracked out as hell. I'm surprised this doesn't happen weekly.

I thought it was cute that he (supposedly) refused Kesha's request to take some acid before recording.
 
Maybe I had a bad read on him - I don't know as much about him/the band as others, but I always had the sense that he was a decent dude.

You know, the kind who would make sure that a woman was okay with her photographed image being made to look like she'd just starred in a bukakke video, before putting it on the internet.
 
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