dr. zooeuss
War Child
i'm not convinced that Charlie is dead. Desmond has a habit of not telling all re: his flashes, and that porthole is conceivably big enough for Charlie to swim through...
Actually, I think Charlie's gone for good. One of the producers has confirmed it pretty solidly in a TVGuide interview:dr. zooeuss said:i'm not convinced that Charlie is dead. Desmond has a habit of not telling all re: his flashes, and that porthole is conceivably big enough for Charlie to swim through...
If you shout... said:Seriously, though...why didn't the dumb-assed junkie just swim out the porthole...? Fuckin' retarded.
bonosgirl84 said:
Personally, I'd have to say that the actual man of this episode was Sayid, who managed to knock a guy off his feet and snap his neck - with a gag in his mouth and his hands tied behind his back.
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But once the water level reached the top of the room, if he could hold his breath long enough, then he could get through...if he could fit.Smallville said:
Let's see water gushing in a porthole that's about 18" in diameter, that force would have to be tremendous, especially given the depth, even if you were some made up superhero like Aquaman you would have a hard time swimming out of that room! So I'd hold off on "retarded" labels.
DreamOutLoud13 said:
This was explained in a Juliet episode a few weeks back. Women who conceive on the island end up mysteriously dying during their pregnancy, which is why the Others brought Juliet to the island. Since she was a fertility expert, they thought she could fix it, but she couldn't (but Ben still wouldn't let her leave).
This is also why the Others kidnapped everyone's kids and Claire and wanted Sun (and any other possible pregnant Losties). The revelation that women who get pregnant on the island die is significant, because for a while there was an uncertainty whether Sun got pregnant on the island by Jin, or whether she got pregnant before they left by the bald guy she was sleeping with, but it was revealed in Sun's episode, when Juliet did an ultrasound on her, that she got pregnant on the island (which was basically a death sentence for her).
Also, Ben is totally not Alex's father, that would be way too stupid. He just kidnapped her when he was a baby (just like the kidnapped the kids from the tail end of the plane etc.) and raised her as his own.
Daddysgonnapay said:I was trying to think who else on the island is black besides Rose...and Mr Echo?
PlaTheGreat said:No no no no no. I'm not talking about being conceived on the island. I'm talking about being a parent back home.
===========U2DMfan said:big question:
who was in the casket?
Justin24 said:What if the only person that really needed saving was Jack?
Lancemc said:I thought about Charlie swimming out the porthole as well, and really was willing him to do so. But instead he used the time to warn Desmond about the freighter and against a rescue from Penny. He died like a true hero.
...oooorrrrr he just wouldn't have fit through the porthole and would have died anyway.
Dalton said:
Or Charlie could have just run out the door and secured it from the other side. Seriously, he had time to close the door AND turn around and see the unkillable pull the pin. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophesy.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
What does that mean?
I think he was trying to save Desmond's life. The water pressure from the explosion could have easily made it impossible to close the door, or for them to get the gear and leave.Dalton said:
Or Charlie could have just run out the door and secured it from the other side. Seriously, he had time to close the door AND turn around and see the unkillable pull the pin. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophesy.
Not necessarily...Dalton said:
Point two: if the woman on the helicopter turns out to be part of a rogue group not attached to Penny does that mean that Desmond's flashes can't be trusted?
That would have made all the "flashforwards" useless.Dalton said:
Point (?) three: What if it was Jack in the coffin and this turns out to be some doppleganger thing...
Justin24 said:
In the Futur flash the only one to be suffering was Jack
Justin24 said:
and Jack also suffered before going on the island.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
How do you figure?
Justin24 said:
His Father
Justin24 said:Maybe Juliet was in the Casket?