Zootlesque said:Isn't Queen a bit prog too?
For sure, at least in the early seventies. I was considering a couple of tracks from Queen II, but ultimately left them out.
Zootlesque said:Isn't Queen a bit prog too?
Zootlesque said:I guess this page could be a decent guide to what can be included in Prog Rock.
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:374
Axver said:
For sure, at least in the early seventies. I was considering a couple of tracks from Queen II, but ultimately left them out.
Zootlesque said:Btw, I have to say I don't care what old school Genesis fans think. No Son Of Mine is a fantastic song! It had a great video too!
Screwtape2 said:We Can't Dance has a lot of great songs.
Screwtape2 said:
We Can't Dance has a lot of great songs. It's my 2nd favorite post-Gabriel Genesis album (their self-titled album being the 1st.)
phanan said:
I like both of those as well, although I rate Duke higher.
GibsonGirl said:I wanted to use some Queen II tracks too. The March Of The Black Queen would have been ideal, but then I would have needed to include Funny How Love Is, which isn't progressive at all. I ended up going with Bicycle Race instead. It shouldn't be possible to fit so many tempo changes into a three minute song, but Queen managed!
phanan said:
And really, Peter Gabriel never went over to pop as much as Collins. Nowhere near it. His last album, Up, is as far from the mainstream as anything you'll hear.
Lila64 said:I still need 'Duke'
Lila64 said:
And Zoots, you have to remember that Phil Collins was the drummer for Genesis first, and after Gabriel left, he took over the vocal duties. They were still "prog" (I guess you'd say) up until that S/T album. We stopped listening after that.
And Peter Gabriel had at least 3 solo albums in the 70s. 'Security' came out in the early 80s, and the big 'hit' there was 'Shock The Monkey'. Before that, you might recognize 'Solsbury Hill'. Maybe you heard 'Games Without Frontiers' from the 3rd solo. I'd name a few more, but I figure it's pointless
Axver said:
I was considering Ogre Battle most seriously, just because it's so ridiculous and fun that I thought it would provide a good change in mood for my tracklist. But, alas, you can only fit so much into 4 hours.
And Bicycle Race! That song has so many nostalgic memories for me, as my father played it all the time when we went to visit my grandparents ... until his car's cassette player ate the cassette while we were crossing the Rimutaka Ranges and were 30 minutes from any half-decent radio reception! Funny how that era of cassettes, eaten tapes, and shitty radio reception not far from a large city feels like an entirely different time now.
Though your mention of its musical complexity is making me now wish I had Dream Theater's The Dance Of Eternity on my tracklist. 91 changes between 17 time signatures in 6.5 minutes? Oh yes!
PS WTF happened in the Super 14 final!! Holy shit!
Screwtape2 said:those who really love Phil Collins
GibsonGirl said:The frustration of having to stick your index finger into the little holes in order to wind up the tape again was half the charm!
Zootlesque said:
Granted, I've heard almost nothing of Gabriel's Genesis.
GibsonGirl said:Ogre Battle is a good one too. Reversed drums + ogre men + screaming + gongs = a song that wins a hundred times over.
I miss the days of cassettes and eaten tapes. You're right, it feels like a completely different era. Those long trips between Natal and the Western Cape just wouldn't be the same these days without the cassette getting stuffed up in the tape deck. The frustration of having to stick your index finger into the little holes in order to wind up the tape again was half the charm!
And argh, I wish I could have seen the final...even though the Sharks lost by a hair! I saw highlights on YouTube and it looked like a fucking amazing match. It's funny, the last rugby match I ever saw in the flesh was between the Sharks and the Bulls at Kings Park. The Sharks lost then too. It wasn't anything like the quality of the match on Saturday though.