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GirlsAloudFan said:
Speaking of Freebirds, and the Lynyrd Skynyrd song "Free Bird", my favorite response by an on-stage musician to an idiot yelling "FREE BIRD!" at a rock concert is when Cris Kirkwood from the Meat Puppets, at Nirvana's Unplugged session, said "I've got a Free Bird for you right here" and gave the idiot in the crowd the middle finger.

Probably not the first person to do that but, yeah.
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I never made it to Freebirds while I lived in Texas, but Chipotle is to die for. Thank God we just got one here.

When we saw Colin Hay last weekend :)love: ) he was telling a story about how someone at a New Zealand concert randomly shouted out during one of the musical breaks, "DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING BY THE PIXIES?" and Colin and he got into an amusing dialogue. Later in the show, Colin said he was about done and a bunch of people started yelling out songs they wanted him to play, about 5 of us yelled out, "Play the Pixies!" and he started cracking up and said, "If I knew anything by them, I would!" to which someone then shouted out, "FREEBIRD!!!" which got him going even more, saying he hadn't heard anyone make that joke in quite some time. It was pretty funny, possibly had to be there.

u2popmofo said:
Choppin' Broccoli is my song choice. :wink:

All this talk about food over the last 24 hrs has some crazily unhealthy dinner ideas floating around my head.
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:love:

My work is starting a Biggest Loser competition tonight, so I finally decided that if I was going to ever do it, today was the day to be bad about my diet and get a Shamrock Shake. :drool:
GirlsAloudFan said:
So, I've been reading Keith Richards' memoirs that he published a couple of years back. Very interesting shit. Even though he was a crazy motherfucker, and a junkie who carried knives and guns around with him all the time, the warmth of his personality comes through in a lot of the writing. Seems like a legitimately good guy. And a badass, of course.

And he really rips into Mick Jagger in a few of the chapters. Totally makes it clear that, at some point in the 1980s, Jagger just turned into a complete asshole and hasn't really stopped up to this day.

Parts of it are rambling, and a few even veer towards incoherent...but I'd definitely recommend reading it. For any Stones fan, especially. Entertaining, informative, like I said gives you a good sense of the man. (At least from his point of view.)

Final tidbit: Keith's favorite Stones song of all-time is "Jumpin' Jack Flash." :cute:
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I want to read this so badly, thanks for the reminder and the motivation.

cobl04 said:
Midnight Vultures was a terrific recommendation. :up: want to take a stab at my two favourite tracks?
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My two favorites are "Milk and Honey" and "Beautiful Way".


I love going to the gym at the Universities I attend, because as far as I can tell, they're all exactly the same. The girls on the cardio machines, the meatheads on the weights, and then the hilarious little guys who watch themselves in the mirror and grunt REALLY loud while they lift weights. Both schools I have seen the exact same people.
 
I like it when artists can get into a good banter with their audience, so yay, Colin Hay :up:.

GAF, yeah, I've heard nothing but good things about that Keith book. May check it out someday myself. And I do indeed like "Jumpin' Jack Flash".

u2popmofo said:
Speaking of odd music and location combos, I heard "Born This Way" today at the gym. Wouldn't normally be a big deal, but the gym I've started going to near work seems to be one of those "only meatheads and former athletes workout here" type places. I've only ever seen 2 women total there. Hearing "don't be a drag, be a queen" blasting in a room full of ridiculous amounts of testosterone was extremely entertaining.

The song right after it was Dynamite by Taio Cruz too. The exact type of music meatheads like to listen to. :laugh:
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:lol: Oh, I wish I could see that.

cobl, glad you're liking Beck so far.
 
cobl04 said:
Midnight Vultures was a terrific recommendation. :up: want to take a stab at my two favourite tracks?
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:up: Figured.

I'm going to guess Hollywood Freaks and Debra. For me, both are Debra. There's this fucking amazing 9 minute version that used to be on youtube. That tour was great.
 
Apparently, there is actually a hotel in the Los Angeles area called Hotel California. I know this because I had to work an account for them today. No amount of whatever on my iPod will get that Eagles song unstuck.
 
Yeah...I stay the hell away from that side of the gym.

Her post makes me laugh because I always see the same three people there every day and know exactly who she's talking about.
 
Danny Boy said:
You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.
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This. So much. I almost had it out until I read this post, my brain had decided to refocus on Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, but we're back to The Eagles.
 
Worst band in the world.

Listened to Midnite Vultures. Had a wonderful, wonderful time. As always, I'm left thinking it's one of the most profoundly underrated albums of all time. I do NOT get why it isn't placed in the same league as Odelay and Sea Change; I am extremely fond of every song. The negative response more or less killed fun Beck and replaced him with sirius artiste Beck. A shame, although we've gotten some good material out of him since. He's not the same live though.
 
LemonMelon said:
Listened to Midnite Vultures. Had a wonderful, wonderful time. As always, I'm left thinking it's one of the most profoundly underrated albums of all time. I do NOT get why it isn't placed in the same league as Odelay and Sea Change; I am extremely fond of every song. The negative response more or less killed fun Beck and replaced him with sirius artiste Beck. A shame, although we've gotten some good material out of him since. He's not the same live though.
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Well it's def in the same league as Sea Change, and I would say it's better.

Odelay...we've discussed this before but there aren't many albums by anyone in that league. Not to sound like one of those guys, but you really had to be there back in 1996 to understand how big of a deal that album was, how refreshing it sounded. Even compared to Beck's previous work. I had multiple friends who wouldn't listen to my suggestion to hear it because they assumed it would sound like "Loser". Eventually they came back to me saying "Holy shit!".

Beck was doing the Dylan + garage + hip hop thing earlier, but it never sounded so powerful, so fat, so classic. The Dust Brothers, as they did with the Beastie Boys on Paul's Boutique, just gave him a sonic credibility that put him on another level. The authenticity was already there, obviously, but the tunes weren't as good before either. And that doesn't even cover the samples. Those hilarious, ingenious samples.

1996. Good times.
 
Sounds like I'll really enjoy this Beck dude.

"We like to ride on executive planes"

That's a Facebook/twitter status you'll see from me in the future.
 
lazarus said:
Well it's def in the same league as Sea Change, and I would say it's better.

Odelay...we've discussed this before but there aren't many albums by anyone in that league. Not to sound like one of those guys, but you really had to be there back in 1996 to understand how big of a deal that album was, how refreshing it sounded. Even compared to Beck's previous work. I had multiple friends who wouldn't listen to my suggestion to hear it because they assumed it would sound like "Loser". Eventually they came back to me saying "Holy shit!".

Beck was doing the Dylan + garage + hip hop thing earlier, but it never sounded so powerful, so fat, so classic. The Dust Brothers, as they did with the Beastie Boys on Paul's Boutique, just gave him a sonic credibility that put him on another level. The authenticity was already there, obviously, but the tunes weren't as good before either. And that doesn't even cover the samples. Those hilarious, ingenious samples.

1996. Good times.
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Yeah, I missed the boat on Odelay. Great memories of that album from, uh, 2005. Not really the same. I approve of the sonic aesthetic and, like most Beck albums, I find it visionary and to have ultimately aged very well. Devils Haircut, New Pollution and Jack-Ass would all be in my top 10 or 15 Beck songs. That being said, there are some tracks I don't rate as highly (Derelict, High 5), and I've always found that Where It's At toes the line between transcendent and irritating. It's not one of my favorites, and yet it is. I love the album for being seamless in its integration of so many Beck trademarks from the early days (country/folk influences, thick beats, crackling noise) into something more sonically cohesive than Mellow Gold.

And no, Cobbler, I can't imagine you disliking Odelay either. I think you'll really dig it; there's a lot of Beck music that you will love and some you might not get much out of. He's one of the most creative, freewheeling artists of the last 20 years and has something for everyone, though it's a rare breed that loves every album like I do.
 
LemonMelon said:
YeDevils Haircut, New Pollution
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LOVE those songs. And I've always loved "Where It's At", personally. I can see where you might be a bit back and forth on it, but I dunno, it's just always been one of my favorites from that time period. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I REALLY miss the '90s. So much good stuff in that decade.

LemonMelon said:
By popular demand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auJZvKYh2rA

There is a 9 minute version, at Budokan, but this is the one I was thinking of. His voice sounds friggin great here.
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I thoroughly enjoyed that :). Thanks for sharing it. Who'd have thought that voice could come out of that guy?

I also really like his moves in that clip. He's got a Mick Jagger thing going on (only, he's better-looking than Jagger, in my opinion :p).

LemonMelon said:
Also, since I know Vlad and Ashley dig this one so much:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAurcFII4YU

Beck should be this fun again.
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Also good stuff. I don't know if they've ever mentioned him as an influence, but somehow, I have no problem believing Franz Ferdinand probably listened to a lot of this guy's music at some point.

Yeah, cobl, he definitely will be up your alley musically, I guarantee it. And speaking of discovering new things, we discussed Gotye a bit in one of the recent threads-I'm quite liking what I'm checking out by him, too. I said this in the "now playing" thread, but "Hearts A Mess"? :heart: Adore that song. Also like "Out Here in the Cold" quite a bit, too.

*Goes off to listen to some Beck now*
 
lazarus said:
Well it's def in the same league as Sea Change, and I would say it's better.

Odelay...we've discussed this before but there aren't many albums by anyone in that league. Not to sound like one of those guys, but you really had to be there back in 1996 to understand how big of a deal that album was, how refreshing it sounded. Even compared to Beck's previous work. I had multiple friends who wouldn't listen to my suggestion to hear it because they assumed it would sound like "Loser". Eventually they came back to me saying "Holy shit!".

Beck was doing the Dylan + garage + hip hop thing earlier, but it never sounded so powerful, so fat, so classic. The Dust Brothers, as they did with the Beastie Boys on Paul's Boutique, just gave him a sonic credibility that put him on another level. The authenticity was already there, obviously, but the tunes weren't as good before either. And that doesn't even cover the samples. Those hilarious, ingenious samples.

1996. Good times.
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I was around in 1996, and I remember being disappointed with Odelay. I loved Mellow Gold and actually still find that album more interesting in its range of different styles. Hell, I actually prefer Guero, and that was just Beck ripping himself off and trying to make another Odelay (I think the individual songs are better on Guero)

My Beck top 5, which I'm certain resembles no one else's

1. Sea Change
2. Mellow Gold
3. Guero
4. Odelay
5. One Foot in the Grave
 
I'm surprised Mutations has not been mentioned yet. For my money, it is probably his most consistent album. Despite having it, I do not think that I have ever listened to Vultures all the way through. I'll change that soon.
 
Mutations is great. Nobody's Fault But My Own is as pretty and moving as anything on Sea Change. I also think Lazy Flies is an awesome and underrated Beck tune.
 
bollox said:
I was around in 1996, and I remember being disappointed with Odelay. I loved Mellow Gold and actually still find that album more interesting in its range of different styles. Hell, I actually prefer Guero, and that was just Beck ripping himself off and trying to make another Odelay (I think the individual songs are better on Guero)
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Everyone's entitled to have an unfortunate opinion. Luckily, I have critical consensus on my side. An overwhelming consensus, considering that before My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Odelay had the largest margin ofvictory in the history of the nationwide Pazz & Jop critic's poll:

The Six Most Decisive Wins In Pazz and Jop History - New York Music - Sound of the City
 
It took me a loooooong time to appreciate Mutations. Something about folk Beck having that slick Godrich production felt wrong to me at first (lets off an elevator music vibe), but now I really like it; the craft behind the songwriting is undeniable. Cold Brains has an epic chorus.
 
lazarus said:
Everyone's entitled to have an unfortunate opinion. Luckily, I have critical consensus on my side. An overwhelming consensus, considering that before My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Odelay had the largest margin ofvictory in the history of the nationwide Pazz & Jop critic's poll:

The Six Most Decisive Wins In Pazz and Jop History - New York Music - Sound of the City
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Interesting read. It helps that 1996 was a pretty crap year overall for music. Actually my #1 of that year (The Score) was the runner-up.
 
So I just got done seeing Chairlift at this Spin magazine deal. Look out, Annie Clark.
 
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