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Old 03-13-2012, 11:01 PM   #346
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also, quickly, "elite media" is the most meaningless, empty, dog-whistle phrase i think to come out of this election cycle.

it means nothing.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:08 PM   #347
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Bias

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Anyways, Mitt Romney projecting two third place finishes today. Good for Santorum, good for Gingrich, good for Paul. Good for the world.
no bias, here?
we all have bias



I used to think dead people had no bias
but I have been watching them, they have a bias towards passivity.
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:20 PM   #348
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also, quickly, "elite media" is the most meaningless, empty, dog-whistle phrase i think to come out of this election cycle.

it means nothing.
*Nods* It fits in right alongside "family values" (or some variation thereof) and "activist judges".
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Old 03-13-2012, 11:51 PM   #349
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really?



no bias, here?
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I used to think dead people had no bias
but I have been watching them, they have a bias towards passivity.
Are you kidding?

That, my friend, is an opinion. What was posted earlier was not. It was an image.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:46 AM   #350
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it's kind of nice that Romney can spend all he wants but can't finish higher than third in either MS or AL. authenticity -- which matters here, the heart of the Confederacy, more than anywhere -- can't be bought, not even by Mr. Cheesy Grits.

it seems shocking to me that so many women -- at least in these primaries -- voted for Santorum. i know that people vote against their own interests all the time, but, well, i am a bit taken aback. perhaps slut-shaming resonates more with conservative women?
Eh, I wouldn't call Santorum a slut-shamer; I don't think he has the kind of 'feminazis are threatening my rightful place in society' hangups that term usually implies when ascribed to men, his social conservatism seems more holistic than that. Anyhow, would it really be any less surprising for conservative women to favor Newt Gingrich? And obviously Romney was never going to do well with those voters for whom 'being a strong social conservative' is high priority, and there are a lot of them in MS and AL.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:51 AM   #351
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I believe the height of the W Bush economy (mid/late 2007) was contained in that graph on the previous page. .

So really, the bias might be in not seeing that it was on an upward track from 2001 on until the collapse. Then again, if you began in 2001 and didn't acknowledge that there was a massive economic boom in 2000, with a surplus and balanced budget that Bush inherited, you'd be shining it the other way. Then again, if you didn't acknowledge that 2001 was also the 9/11 recession and that revenues fall after massive tax cuts, you'd be unfair to W...then again, you could say that the deficit created under Bush was due to a useless war and unnecessary tax cuts, then again you could say those tax cuts spurred on the recovery...well, you get the point. There's always a spin.

What we do know is that the ass clowns in the financial industry that fucked ALL of us in late 2008 have never been taken into account and have no real hindrance to simply doing it all over again.
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I believe the height of the W Bush economy (mid/late 2007) was contained in that graph on the previous page. .

So really, the bias might be in not seeing that it was on an upward track from 2001 on until the collapse. Then again, if you began in 2001 and didn't acknowledge that there was a massive economic boom in 2000, with a surplus and balanced budget that Bush inherited, you'd be shining it the other way. Then again, if you didn't acknowledge that 2001 was also the 9/11 recession and that revenues fall after massive tax cuts, you'd be unfair to W...then again, you could say that the deficit created under Bush was due to a useless war and unnecessary tax cuts, then again you could say those tax cuts spurred on the recovery...well, you get the point. There's always a spin.

What we do know is that the ass clowns in the financial industry that fucked ALL of us in late 2008 have never been taken into account and have no real hindrance to simply doing it all over again.
And I never disagreed with such a point. I just didn't like the idea of posting a picture of the NASDAQ and insinuating that a 1-2 year time frame of Bush to Obama means Obama > Bush in all economics. No words included, just a silly meaningless post. You can't draw a general conclusion based on an incredibly finite point.
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Lucky, welcome to FYM and welcome to politics... It happens on all sides.
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Lucky, welcome to FYM and welcome to politics... It happens on all sides.
I'm aware. Again though, I'm not even trying to support Bush or slander Obama in that situation. My point was more... abstract to a thinking process.

I also don't like when something or someone is quick to draw a conclusion, or very broad and missing the fine details (or the opposite). I don't like when people can't make intellectual decisions for themselves (or at least avoid making a decision and admit to themselves they are not confident enough about something to make a decision). Which ties into my last point -- I absolutely hate media sensationalism.

So with that in summary, I very much so hate politics and just about everything about it. My interest in politics is merely from a justice standpoint. Bettering politics and taking down the machine. As you can imagine with all of this, I'm a Ron Paul guy.
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My interest in politics is merely from a justice standpoint. Bettering politics and taking down the machine. As you can imagine with all of this, I'm a Ron Paul guy.
I respect your point and agree to a certain point. But when it comes to justice, Ron Paul is definately not the answer.
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My interest in politics is merely from a justice standpoint.
And you see, from my perspective as a lawyer, this sounds like a completely hollow platitude that isn't accompanied by any sort of reasonable explanation of what it means at all.
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so ... mixed feelings here. it's kind of nice that Romney can spend all he wants but can't finish higher than third in either MS or AL. authenticity -- which matters here, the heart of the Confederacy, more than anywhere -- can't be bought, not even by Mr. Cheesy Grits.
It seems that Romney isn't really winning the PR race. In the delegates race it's a slightly different story, as he's still picking up delegates left and right. It might even be that he picked up the most delegates yesterday (by comfortably winning Hawaii and Western Samoa and being close in Alabama and Mississippi) and if not then it is really close. But yeah, he's not winning some high-profile ones.
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I respect your point and agree to a certain point. But when it comes to justice, Ron Paul is definately not the answer.
And you're free to believe what you'd like. I'm not one who thinks that Ron Paul himself will march into the White House and revolutionize America if given the chance, but what he stands for is what I stand for, and what he stands for will leave a legacy for our future. Hopefully, we can build off of his movement.
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And you see, from my perspective as a lawyer, this sounds like a completely hollow platitude that isn't accompanied by any sort of reasonable explanation of what it means at all.
I think you need to stop being so butthurt and get over it.
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I think you need to stop being so butthurt and get over it.
Really? Is this what you "stand for"?
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