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Dude. Everything okay?

(eta - that was probably a really stupid way to phrase a well-intentioned question.)

In the grand scheme of things, its real. In all likelihood, i a fine. Just a bit drunk, sick, and fucking worn out.

But yeah - rage does follow grief. In a way that i would have never imagined before. You lose the one person in your life who not only played a big role in your birth, but also went to work and bragged to all who would listen how wonderful you were, and then, kept doing that shit for enough years until you were old enough to realize that despite what a fuck up you were - they didn't care - because they loved you unconditionally. That person, that special bond, just had to go.

Again. That is the rage inside of me.

The grief, for the person i lost and loved so much, doesnt hold that much anger and resentment to life. Its a thing - that we get to have two sides to grief

A year and more later i dont have a better handle on it like i thought imight. Guess it just means i m human afterall.

We all are. But its still gut - wrenching.

And thank you for asking. Im fine and will be so.
 
In the grand scheme of things, its real. In all likelihood, i a fine. Just a bit drunk, sick, and fucking worn out.

But yeah - rage does follow grief. In a way that i would have never imagined before. You lose the one person in your life who not only played a big role in your birth, but also went to work and bragged to all who would listen how wonderful you were, and then, kept doing that shit for enough years until you were old enough to realize that despite what a fuck up you were - they didn't care - because they loved you unconditionally. That person, that special bond, just had to go.

Again. That is the rage inside of me.

The grief, for the person i lost and loved so much, doesnt hold that much anger and resentment to life. Its a thing - that we get to have two sides to grief

A year and more later i dont have a better handle on it like i thought imight. Guess it just means i m human afterall.

We all are. But its still gut - wrenching.

And thank you for asking. Im fine and will be so.

I hear you. I think we both mentioned relating to California.

I’ve seen for myself
There’s no end to grief
That’s how I know
That’s how I know
And why I need to know
That there is no
Yeah, there is no end to love

Some days, that knowledge is all we have. That's what they gave us. And what gets us through.

Brighter days are ahead, hopefully. Hang in there.
 
In the grand scheme of things, its real. In all likelihood, i a fine. Just a bit drunk, sick, and fucking worn out.

But yeah - rage does follow grief. In a way that i would have never imagined before. You lose the one person in your life who not only played a big role in your birth, but also went to work and bragged to all who would listen how wonderful you were, and then, kept doing that shit for enough years until you were old enough to realize that despite what a fuck up you were - they didn't care - because they loved you unconditionally. That person, that special bond, just had to go.

Again. That is the rage inside of me.

The grief, for the person i lost and loved so much, doesnt hold that much anger and resentment to life. Its a thing - that we get to have two sides to grief

A year and more later i dont have a better handle on it like i thought imight. Guess it just means i m human afterall.

We all are. But its still gut - wrenching.

And thank you for asking. Im fine and will be so.

I hear you. Its a lot fresher for you than me. I won't say the old "time heals" cliche, but as time goes on it gets a little easier to just relive the good memories. But some of that grief and anger will always resurface from time to time. One of the worst aspects of life.
 
Agree completely, this is what I have thought for the past two albums. It's beyond me why they didn't release the title track of NLOTH to alt rock stations, would have done very well. And, of course, the ones you mention from the current album.


i love this song and well, in the NYC area since they played Fordham Univ - that Uni has a non-profit radio station WFUV-FM which has some great DJ's who go CLassic, Current, Indie and alt....

so they always have some U2 on the station.

i was outside of the area in the back had NO idea :grumpy: they got more people passing by off the street-- bc it was cold enough that day that it wasn't as full a crowd as it would have been ...
but I did hear Breath live another fav track for me- that was glorious!


Hopefully SOE will have more kick-ass songs on it.

though I love Iris and S4S as balladly pieces.

and cedar road, the Troubles have been growing on me.

Like Volcano & California, too.
 
oops didn't catch this before the, chirpy, cheery post.

WELL SAID VP & Hewson

longer for me too
As I described to someone recently the sorrow is way more intermittent and usually is like a punch in the shoulder, but sometimes (more rarely) it still feels like a tons of bricks or even the "2-ton truck" version.

I realized 2 weeks ago one reason I might not have gotten the album yet (listening on YT when I can get Net) is bc "Iris " has usually left me in some state of teariness

hang in there Mrs Garrison
 
I took a strong liking to Lucifer and Ballroom. But as for SOI, I haven't listened in months and have zero desire to revisit it. I despise the generic tracks like Iris and California. Lump them in with commercial throwaways like COBL and Magnificent. The first third is dull, the middle third is mildly enticing if for the reminiscing, and the final third is overproduced and forced. Blech.
 
Last week, Sleep like a baby, song for someone and Every Breaking Wave showed up on shuffle on my ipod. The first made me fall asleep like a baby indeed, SFS still does nothing... I am slowly getting used to EBW though. While the hasty bridge still irks me, I'm getting to appreciate the rest of the song.

And as a bonus I got Volcano as well, which was a brilliant confusion for my brain as I initially thought I was hearing Glastonbury in a wonky studio version until I remembered that it was Volcano. :D But that one still brings joy to my ears.
 
I took a strong liking to Lucifer and Ballroom. But as for SOI, I haven't listened in months and have zero desire to revisit it. I despise the generic tracks like Iris and California. Lump them in with commercial throwaways like COBL and Magnificent. The first third is dull, the middle third is mildly enticing if for the reminiscing, and the final third is overproduced and forced. Blech.


Iris is generic?

And the final third is actually the least produced portion of the album. Maybe you got the wrong album :shrug:


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The final third does have its share of studio trickery. I would argue SLABT and The Troubles sound more like studio creations than Volcano or The Miracle.

If by "least produced" you mean "good," then I can agree with that.
 
The final third does have its share of studio trickery. I would argue SLABT and The Troubles sound more like studio creations than Volcano or The Miracle.

If by "least produced" you mean "good," then I can agree with that.


Well what song of U2's since the late 80's doesn't have "studio trickery"? Very few... I mean that the later third objectively have the least amount of producers and objectively sound least produced. To say they are over produced and forced is an absolutely absurd argument. I'll except criticism of this album, but only if it's legitimate. This poster's criticism is not only off it's just making up shit.


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If experience has taught U2 anything it's that their music sounds best when it's engineered and mixed by Flood. So hopefully they'll apply that experience to those Songs.
 
Hey guys, is there any new news on the songs of experience front. Have been out of touch lately and sifting through pages of discussion is too time consuming. Thanks

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Oh excellent then

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Again, sorry if in wrong place but a wee fact


My mates pap's cousin was in the short 'Every Breaking Wave' film that was made here in Belfast, (she keeps tellin me to join the ExtrasNI, cause, ya just never know!), yes it caused upset, but there was me originally thinkin it was a U2 official vid, lol.


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God I love that song!!!:up:
 
Here is my guess... didn't Lanois said about SOI "just announce the new album but don't go for a physical or digital release". That' s the way it gonna be now. SOE will be nearly completely played on the tour. And it will be released somtime in between the different legs. I'm so sure about that!


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I agree. I think they will play Songs Of Experience during the tour prior to releasing. Maybe they will do something similar to what kings of leon did and have a "song for the city". It's going to tie in somehow with the "experience" of the tour.


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Exactly. Pretty much logic for the next move. The First live release of an Album in history. BMan loves those history things!
The innocent Apple will escort the experienced Live Shows. We gonna Know-how soon!


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