GibsonGirl
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I've got an unopened copy of Zooropa sitting in a drawer somewhere, just in case something happens to my existing copy.
Earnie Shavers said:
A lot of Achtung Baby, to state the obvious, isn't just about being on the receiving end of heartbreak, but dishing it out. The temptation, the action, the reaction, to be the betrayer, not just the betrayed. "You know the sun can sometimes be eclipsed by the moon, you know I don't see you when she walks in the room". Mysterious Ways, Even Better than the Real Thing, Tryin' to Throw your Arms... Temptation, sex, betrayal. Mostly temptation though, and I think that spun itself into reality through the Zoo tour. Maybe not in some awful way, but certainly in that some of the band members were happy to let themselves go, dance very close to whatever line they previously would have stayed far away from. I think that's definitely the place where Zooropa, and the above lyric, is coming from. If you haven't read "U2 At the End of the World" you should. I don't think it's the hangover though. I think Achtung is all the dark thoughts leading through to about 2am. Then they say "f*ck it", pop the red pill and shoot off into Zooropa where they soak it up and don't really give it second thought. When they wake up, two days later, they're confused and angry and guilty and bitter - coming down - and you get Pop.
that's a shame. my favourite albums are the ones that took a while to 'get'. achtung baby and kid a among others are cd's that took an effort on my part for me to actually listen to/hear them. and once i did, it was like the world had changed.jonnytakeawalk said:
I don't know why people say you have to keep listening to certain albums to start to appreciate them. If I don't get into the album from the first time I listen to it then I never get into it
lmjhitman said:
that's a shame. my favourite albums are the ones that took a while to 'get'. achtung baby and kid a among others are cd's that took an effort on my part for me to actually listen to/hear them. and once i did, it was like the world had changed.
the ones that i do get on the first try, rarely stand up to repeated listenings. i usually end up giving those away.
lmjhitman said:
that's a shame. my favourite albums are the ones that took a while to 'get'. achtung baby and kid a among others are cd's that took an effort on my part for me to actually listen to/hear them. and once i did, it was like the world had changed.
the ones that i do get on the first try, rarely stand up to repeated listenings. i usually end up giving those away.
LemonMacPhisto said:
That's also an interesting way to interpret Achtung -> Pop, do you consider the Passengers album to be part of that canon?
Earnie Shavers said:So it's kind of like a passing of the baton of ideas and influences. Achtung Baby is a guitar album, but they find rhythm along the way. Zooropa is a rhythm album, but they find electronica along the way. Passengers is an electronica album. Then comes Pop, which is a straight guitar album driven by a rhythm section and bottom end that has heavily been beefed up by electronica. Culmination of those last three. Throw Achtung, Zooropa & Passengers into a blender and what you get is a dense drink called Pop.
Zootlesque said:
On a side note, I wish they would remaster Zooropa... not to mention, War and a whole bunch of other albums.
Earnie Shavers said:Careful there... a straight remastering (what they did for the songs on the Best of 80's) would be awesome. However, I fear them just sneaking in a new line here, or new note there though, through to complete reworkings (see much of the Best of 90's). I'm all for straight remastering without a single change of a single thing to the originals though. Would be brilliant.
COBL_04 said:
I hate to admit/say this, but did was anyone else a little weired out by DGPFYCC's lyrics? Maybe being a teenager my mind is a little dirty, but that's what I thought.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Think heroin. 'Daddy' being the drug,
"A little uptight
You're a baby's fist
Butterfly kisses up and down your wrist
When you see daddy coming
You're licking your lip
Nails bitten down to the quick"
Think of someone licking their lips for a hit, butterfly kisses being the tack marks on her arms.
Originally posted by GibsonGirl
HTDAAB is a very "obvious" record, for lack of a better word. Nothing on it really had a chance to grow with me. It peaked from the outset and declined steadily as time went by.
Doesn't surprise me at all Oh boy, I really do fear for your reaction to Pop.COBL_04 said:But with HTDAAB, with the exception of Love and Peace or Else, I loved it all straight away.
Isn't that a coincidence? The 'weirdest' track on HTDAAB took me the longest to get into. Typical.
They're angels. The video was for Wim Wenders' film Faraway, So Close!, which was a sequel to his film Wings of Desire, which City of Angels was an American remake of, if that gives you any idea of the subject matter.COBL_04 said:Stay was really good as well, but I didn't get the start.
COBL_04 said:^ Ah, okay. So what was Wenders' movie about?
COBL_04 said:What exactly does he have to do with U2?