Reading this thread, it seems like there are several people really wanting U2 to fail with this tour.
Just this thread?
It's very sad.
Reading this thread, it seems like there are several people really wanting U2 to fail with this tour.
Reading this thread, it seems like there are several people really wanting U2 to fail with this tour.
OK . . . ?
"Studying U2's touring history" is not something I would want to advertise.
I'd like to make a few revisions to my predicted schedule...
City/Venue/Capacity/Tickets Sold/Gross/Average Ticket Price
September
12, 13 Chicago - Soldier Field (2 shows...120,000/Sold Out/$11.5 million /$96)
16, 17 Toronto - Rogers Centre (2 shows...140,000/Sold Out/$13 million/$93)
20, 21 Foxboro, MA (Boston) - Gillette Stadium (2 shows...140,000/Sold Out/$11.5 million /$82)
24, 25, 27 E. Rutherford, NJ (NYC metro area) - Giants Stadium (3 shows...240,000/Sold Out/$19.5 million /$81)
29 Landover, MD (Washington, DC) - FedEx Field (75,000/Sold Out/$6.5 million/$87)
October
1 Charlottesville, VA - Scott Stadium (62,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
3 Raleigh - Carter Finley Stadium (57,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
6 Atlanta - Georgia Dome (67,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$67)
9 Tampa - Raymond James Stadium (65,000/54,000/$3.5 million/$65)
12 Dallas - Cowboys Stadium (80,000/28,000/$1.8 million/$65)
14 Houston - Reliant Stadium (70,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
19 Norman, OK (Oklahoma City area) - University Memorial Stadium (82,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
20 Glendale, AZ (Phoenix) - University Of Phoenix Stadium (63,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$71.50)
23 Las Vegas - Sam Boyd Stadium (37,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$122)
25 Pasadena, CA (LA metro area) - Rose Bowl (95,000/Sold Out/11.5 million/$121)
28 Vancouver - BC Place Stadium (60,000/Sold Out/$5.5 million/$92)
This leg should gross over $105 million.
July - August 2010
Winnipeg - Canad Inns Stadium (55,000/Sold Out/$6 million/$109)
Edmonton - Commonwealth Stadium (2 shows...120,000/Sold Out/$11.5 million/$96)
Seattle - Qwest Field (65,000/Sold Out/$5.5 million/$85)
Salt Lake City - Rice Stadium (47,000/26,000/$1.7 million/$65)
Oakland - Alameda County Stadium (65,000/Sold Out/$7 million /$108)
San Diego - Qualcomm Stadium (70,000/Sold Out/$6 million/$86)
Denver - Invesco Field (75,000/57,000/$3.7 million/$65)
Minneapolis - Metrodome (64,000/34,000/$2.2 million/$65)
Madison - Camp Randall Stadium (81,000/77,000/$5 million/$65)
St. Louis - Edward James Dome (66,000/28,000/$1.8 million/$65)
Miami - Dolphins Stadium (75,000/Sold Out/$5 million/$67)
Detroit - Ford Field (65,000/Sold Out/$5 million/$77)
Cleveland - Browns Stadium (73,000/34,000/$2.2 million/$65)
Montreal - Olympic Stadium (65,000/Sold Out/$6 million/$92)
Halifax - Commons (80,000/46,000/$3 million/$65)
Pittsburgh - Heinz Field (65,000/28,000/$1.8 million/$65)
Hartford - Rentschler Field (2 shows…80,000/Sold Out/$5.5 million/$69)
Philadelphia - Lincoln Financial Field (2 shows…140,000/Sold Out/$9.5 million/$68)
Syracuse - Carrier Dome (50,000/26,000/$1.7 million/$65)
This leg should gross over $90 million.
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Atlanta, LA, Denver & Madison have been revised.
Of course you don't...because you clearly don't have a clue how to judge U2's concert demand. But hey, if you do, then post your predicted schedule...
Btw, the ONLY thing you're right about is the capacity of FedEx Field being over 90,000 and not 75,000 - which I swore it was when I looked it up online.
OK . . . ?
It's kind of pointless to come up with a tour itinerary, no? Even U2 changed the 2009 tour at the last minute.
So you can walk the walk...but you can't talk the talk?
And I'll admit it: I won't be disappointed if the stadium tour fails because I want to see them back in arenas.
How many of us (including yourself) would have predicted that they were going to skip the Bay Area, Philadelphia, Miami, and Seattle on the first swing through North America?
You're kidding yourself with this. They're not going to redo the stage setup to accomodate arenas just for the US if the fall tour fails. In that case they'll probably just tour Europe again next summer & then ROW knowing they can sell out stadiums in both.
Of course you don't...because you clearly don't have a clue how to judge U2's concert demand. But hey, if you do, then post your predicted schedule...
Btw, the ONLY thing you're right about is the capacity of FedEx Field being over 90,000 and not 75,000 - which I swore it was when I looked it up online.
Not if they price 10,000 seats a night at $250. Logically, if there were that many people willing to spend that kind of money on U2 tickets, wouldn't there be a lot more paid subscribers to u2.com?
I guess time will tell.
You may be right, but there are a few of us here who suspect the reason the band has only announced 4 North American cities so far is because they're having second thoughts about exclusively playing stadiums in the U.S. If the band's management was smart (and I have my doubts about that), U2 would be playing arenas in medium and small markets.
Wrong.......they are only putting tickets for a handful of shows at a time because scalpers had a field day on the last tour when tickets for all shows went on at the same time and U2 was criticized for it.....plus some venues and dates are not completely set in stone ...you asked why some cities were skipped...it wasn't U2's intention to skip a place like Philly ...the Eagles are playing a home game between the NYC/NJ and DC dates and since the setup for the new tour only works in Football configurated stadiums so Philly is out this time around...I imagine the same thing is true for Miami and Seattle....it also happened with Baltimore...the owner of the Baltimore Ravens football team tried to have U2 play at their stadium but the Ravens are playing a football game at home around the same date U2 gave the Ravens...so it's a no go..instead U2 is playing at the Redskins field 35 miles away
12 Dallas - Cowboys Stadium (80,000/28,000/$1.8 million/$65)
19 Norman, OK (Oklahoma City area) - University Memorial Stadium (82,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
or is Houston just really cool in the fall?
By the way, unless I missed it, you still didn't answer my question about your pricing theory:
On what basis do you claim that the average ticket price at the Rose Bowl will be 50% higher than the average ticket price at Giants Stadium?
14 Houston - Reliant Stadium (70,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
19 Norman, OK (Oklahoma City area) - University Memorial Stadium (82,000/31,000/$2 million/$65)
20 Glendale, AZ (Phoenix) - University Of Phoenix Stadium (63,000/Sold Out/$4.5 million/$71.50)
Assuming this is close, why would U2 skip 5 days between Houston and Norman and only 1 day to get over to Phoenix -- wouldn't 14, 17, 20 make more sense from a date perspective and logistics?
There's supposedly only going to be one show in LA and probably three shows in NYC/NJ. So since I believe they'll be able to gross $11.5 million in LA and the capacity of the Rose Bowl is 95,000, you divide $11.5 million by 95,000 and you get an average price of basically $121. Whereas, since I believe they'll be able to gross $19.5 million in NYC/NJ from three shows and the capacity of Giants Stadium is 80,000, you divide $19.5 million by 240,000 (three nights) and you get an average price of basically $81.
Most of the big releases are in Q4. To suggest that NLOTH is on its way to becoming one of the biggest albums of the year because it is outselling second tier artists or artists who've had albums out for months is spurious. Pop had the best selling week in 1997 through the first week in March as well.
Actually, in this case, time won't tell because if they re-publish the 12 "retracted" North American stadium sites, we will likely never know why they retracted them in the first place.
In September and October, U2 360° Tour will also visit: Atlanta, GA; Charlottesville, VA; Dallas, TX; Houston, TX; Las Vegas, NV; Los Angeles, CA; Norman, OK; Phoenix, AZ; Tampa, FL; Washington, DC and Vancouver, BC. Complete Tour and ticketing information to follow.
there are a few of us here who suspect the reason the band has only announced 4 North American cities so far is because they're having second thoughts about exclusively playing stadiums in the U.S.
Despite the actual dates being retracted, u2.com has never removed this from their page. The only discrepancy is Raleigh, where a date was listed but doesn't appear in the cities listed in the text.
Raleigh is included in the text of a Live Nation press release that came out yesterday.
The caveat to that was it was they would only be selling some seats at $250 in high end markets like NY or LA even DC ......I can almost guarantee you that you wont see $250 dollar seats in Norman,Oklahoma....if they do somebody in the Live Nation/U2 camp is a very stupid and ignorant person and it will come back to haunt them
Unfortunately, you don't seem to understand the the list of the best selling albums in 2009 through week 10 is based on combined sales of all the weeks each album has been on chart, not just their best selling week. Here is just the top 10 again: