They are undercutting the market some in some major markets by playing arenas. I have never said they were not. But MOST people can get tickets if they want them bad enough.
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Some? I'd say potentially locking out half of the people that want to see you in a given market is NOT "some". Oh, yes, you have indeed implied repeatedly that Arenas would NOT have any impact on the ability of fans to get tickets. Repeatedly. You know, I got like tickets to 8 Vertigo concerts SO ANYONE can get tickets to 8 vertigo concerts.
Sorry, it does not work like that, and the number of tickets sold for arenas on Vertigo vs stadiums on 360 is representative of the number of people that CAN get locked out when U2 decides to play arenas.
If U2 only plays one arena concert in Dallas, most fans in the Dallas metro area are not going to be able to see U2 on the new tour. In fact, I'd say that would be true if they played two arena shows in Dallas. Why? On 360 U2 played to 70,000 people at one show in Dallas.
Now how many people who went to that Dallas show as well as those who were not able to, are going to be accommodated by two shows in an 18,500 capacity arena?
Trust me, you do care about casual fans, because without them, all your efforts in getting tickets would not be nearly as successful.
Go back and look at the Vertigo tour threads. Does not seem like most fans here did NOT attend shows if they were able. ALOT of people on this board were able to attend.
One is by definition a die hard if they look at, register and especially post at this forum. This forum represents a tiny, tiny, fraction of the number U2 fans that are out there. There are NO casual fans in the Vertigo Tour Threads. Casual fans don't go on band message boards. In fact, only a fraction of the die hards do.
If they play arenas, I guess you are not going because you will not be able to log on and get a ticket. Too bad, I will be there regardless, guaranteed. I'm not all that worried about it. Enjoy your stress for no reason.
Honestly, I could care less about the casual fan. From my concert going there seem to be plenty of them there anyway, even arenas and they are more interested in grabbing another beer vs watching the show. So if they can't attend I wont be losing sleep over it.
Good Lord, why would you say something like that. Yes, there were some tough shows to get into on Vertigo, but I succeeded. I'm a die hard fan and will spend the money or time necessary to do that. One of the Vertigo shows I saw was the 2nd night in Dublin Ireland.
I stated that casual fans will get locked out of arena shows(provided there is not a major decrease in popularity), and anyone who knows the stats and understands math should be able to see that. I never said that was a good or bad thing, I'm simply stating it was a fact and for some reason you decided to dispute that.