A_Wanderer:
To quote Congresswoman Jane Harman:
"I saw cruel, sadistic torture"
And Paul Wolfowitz already confirmed that the methods of questioning the Pentagon allowed the US military violate the 3rd Genova Convention.
And he added that the Iraqi prisinors were treated worse than that what was approved.
Some examples:
NY Times reported that Chalid Sheik Mohammed was tied up and put under water to make him fear about his life and get him to speak (i don't know about you but i would say ANYTHING they want to hear, no matter truth or not to stope them from treating me like that)
Others didn't get their medication to make them speak, others didn't get food, others were told that they will be executed.
So i ask you: How can the US expect to be taken seriousely when they talk like this but act like that?
Ugly things like the Killing of a eight year old girl at a wedding-party by a US soldier in iraq can happen also it would be good if the US would apologize for their behaviour:
(
http://news.amnesty.org/mav/index/ENGMDE140192004 )
but in prisons where there is no stress ANY misstreatment torture or rape must be punished in the same way it would be punished at home.
And the US citizens pay 5.000.000.000 $ per month for it, the whole next year that's almost 2000$ a second!
What makes me also sick is that many people are more affraid about how these pictures of torture might affect the climate of international terrorism than they are affraid that their country tortures murders or rapes (maybe even innocent!) people.
It is not the medias fault if people get angry in arab because they see this torture it's the fault of the men who commited these tortures and it is the fault of the people who didn't do enough to stop them!
You can read in the links below that for example the UK victims of torture in Guantamo Bay told the US Military what they wanted to hear, no matter if it was true or not just to stop the torture.
Shafiq Rasul and Asif Iqbal, held at the base for more than two years, said they were deliberately humiliated
Guards used strobe lights, dogs and loud music
...
to extract information,
...
Mr Rasul and Mr Iqbal said detainees often were forced to go naked as punishment for minor offences, even when female guards were present.
They also said they were forced to squat with their hands chained between their legs for hours during questioning.
"Soldiers told us, 'We can do anything we want'," the men said in the open letter to Mr Bush and members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Mr Rasul and Mr Iqbal are among five Britons released from Guantanamo whom the British Government freed without charge after determining they were not a security threat.
-> it hapened to people who were NOT GUILTY
Klaus
Here some more background informations:
ai about Iraqi Prisons (on their website you can find much more, i just picked the last 2):
http://news.amnesty.org/mav/index/ENGAMR510772004
http://news.amnesty.org/mav/index/ENGMDE140212004
BBC - Treatment of the UK citizens in Guantamo Bay:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3546209.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3501910.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3713111.stm
And this was just todays headlines, for years. There are almost daily reports from various trustworthy mediasources
ps before some people start to say that these institutions just complain about US torture, here's the link to what ai has to say about the beheading of the US citizen:
http://news.amnesty.org/mav/index/ENGMDE140212004