Irvine511
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80sU2isBest said:That's not "my" terms of argument. I've been talking about Conservative Republicans in general, not just politicians.
yes. you've been working under a misformulation of the terms of argument. i was encouraging you to get your terms in order so that a proper comparison can be made. conservative republican politicians can damage that gay man on the pride float in ways that that gay man on a pride float could never damage a conservative republican politician.
but if you'd like to shift the terms, and compare your average gay man (we'll assume, for the sake of argument, that he's liberal and democrate even though many gay men are quite libertarian and would probably be Republicans if it were not for the party definining itself around homophobia, which it is doing as evidenced in countless gay bashing legislation at the state level and proposing to amend the constitution at the federal level) to your average Conservative Republican. firstly, the number of Conservative Republicans out numbers the number of liberal democratic gay men by a lot. secondly, it's the Conservative Republicans who seem to be much, much more interested in what that gay man does behind doors than the gay man is in what goes on behind closed doors in the life of your average conservative Republican. the result, you see, is that Conservative Republicans, through the ways in which they vote, which is usually but not always for other Conservative Republicans, provides their representatives with incentives to regulate and, essentially, discriminate against the personal life of a liberal democratic gay man. he has neither the political means, nor even the interest, to do damage to the life of a Conservative Republican whereas said Conservative Republicans -- as we've said before, not all, and it is the sign of a mature person who can speak in broad strokes while understanding that, obviously, we do not mean *everybody* -- base much of that political identity around taking anti-gay stances. this might not apply to you, as an individual, but if you ask anybody, from Conservative Republicans to libertarians to Liberal Democrats, they will pretty much all agree that one componant of a Conservative Republican identity is the belief that the government must be used to regulate and control personal behavior. Rick Santorum believes this; Tom DeLay believes this; the states of Texas and Alabama believe this. they've made gay people scapegoats for any number of social failures in this country, and manipulated both the bible and the Church as justification for their invective, and that's why you see people like myself and Melon (and a whole bunch of straight people) get up in arms about Conservative Republicans.