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Yeah, the 1910's CUZ THEIR SOO-OO OLD!!!1
The album isn't done till Steve Lillywhite says it's done.
Except plans for a tour don't really begin until the album is near completion...360 is old news, enough for a smaller/arena this year, had the album been finished. No album = no tour.
2013 is right on schedule given their releases in the 00's.
This isn't necessarily true, I'd say it's likely to be this time but it definitely wasn't true of 360, they started working on that almost as soon as Vertigo was finished. Hence why it was a complete misfit for the album it was ostensibly staged for.
The very eary talks started , ie "we want to play stadiums in the round" idea was first pitched to Willie Williams right after the Hawaii show.
But it was a long was from that till the final stages of the tour planning, and indeed, NLOTH itself. 360 is the exception to the rule.
The main issue is audiences just didn't care much for NLOTH live. I thought it was a good tour that arguably overshadowed the album it was promoting (like most U2 tours for the last 20 years, with the possible exception of Zoo TV).
The U2.com story fom the other day about Bono's trip did say that he was having a 'week out of the studio'. U2 > News > 'The Power of the People'
The audience didn't take to NLOTH as much because it was an album without radio love being played to stadium audiences, filling stadiums to capacity require casual fans en masse. Fans that probably stopped paying attention in 1992.
My point was that with the exception of the unfortunate pandering middle 3 tracks, NLOTH was not an album that was made to be promoted in a stadium, but the return to stadiums was already set in their minds.
The audience didn't take to NLOTH as much because it was an album without radio love being played to stadium audiences, filling stadiums to capacity require casual fans en masse. Fans that probably stopped paying attention in 1992.
My point was that with the exception of the unfortunate pandering middle 3 tracks, NLOTH was not an album that was made to be promoted in a stadium, but the return to stadiums was already set in their minds.
The planning of the logistics of the tour started long before the album was released. You don't put together that type of tour without years of planning.
The final confirming of dates doesn't occur until closer to the release date, but you don't get holds on stadiums for 5-6 days at a time without discussing it with the stadium operators many months in advance.
I'd almost guarantee they have already had preliminary discussions about potential dates and venue availability for next year, just in case they finish and decide on a spring release. If it doesn't work out, they give up the holds and work to reschedule.
If those discussions haven't taken place, then there's no chance in hell we're getting an album before late 2013 at the earliest.
A side note on that... If perchance they do tour next summer and go back to arenas, they'll have to play the Barclay's Center in Brooklyn and skip MSG, as it'll be closed next summer for renovations.
It takes a while, yes.
Spring 2013, with this much quiet and current news about Spiderman ? And they're already talking about venues and dates ?
Audiences sure had no issues with the sold out opening legs with plenty of NLOTH...
It's U2. They don't need a "radio album" or pandering songs to sell out venues.
NLOTH, Magnificent, the Crazy remix and MOS worked very well.
FWIW I asked Neil McCormack over twitter about why things are taking so long (why not?)
His reply: "They're taking their time making a masterpiece, of course."
there's an iota of new album news for y'all
Did you go to the opening legs? The crowd outside of the GA was practically dead for much of the NLOTH material, & beautiful as it is MOS was never the right choice to end a stadium show with.
His reply: "They're taking their time making a masterpiece, of course."
He's clearly the most unbiased source in this case, right?
How much would he actually know regarding the state of the new album? Especially if it's kept under wraps like this.
Did you go to the opening legs? The crowd outside of the GA was practically dead for much of the NLOTH material, & beautiful as it is MOS was never the right choice to end a stadium show with.
U2girl said:Yes. The one NLOTH song that really didn't work live imo was Unknown caller (well...and opening with NLOTH instead of Breathe would have been a better move).
Unknown Caller didn't work well as a studio song, either.
"I've talked to the U2 boys to ask when I can release all of these," he said. "I'd very much like to put a book together but they've asked me to hold back. They're considering using the images for their artwork on the new album. It should be out mid to late next year."