Achtung_Bebe said:
there exists a number of simultaneous human and dinosaur prints found, mainly in Mexico, New Mexico, Arizona, Missouri, Kentucky, and Illinois.
Sorry...I've seen those "prints," which are distinctly ambiguous. I'm looking for
bones. If we can get bones from dinosaurs that are a fraction of our size with smaller bone density, then why aren't we there? Is it because we
weren't?
Also, there are places in Arizona and Rhodesia where dinosaur pictographs have been found drawn on cave/canyon walls by man (before the possibility of depiction by excavation).
So your "evidence" is ambiguous, prehistoric pictographs? That could be a lizard, for God's sake! You know, we do have small, now living lizards that do stand upright, you know. And, considering their depiction of people were flat, boxy blobs with stick hands and feet, I don't think they were going for masterful detail.
Furthermore, you will find in Job 40:15-41:34 a reference which seems to refer to land and marine dinosaurs living in Job's day. Five-toed llamas are also thought to have been extinct about 30 million years ago according to the framework of evolution, but archaeologists have found pottery with etchings of five-toed llamas, and skeletons have been found in association with the Tiahuanacan culture.
That's funny. The Catholic Bible explains what these ambiguous terms stand for:
"Behemoth" = hippopotamous
"Leviathan" = crocodile
You are grasping for straws.
But five-toed llamas could still have existed. I mean, coelocanths were thought to have been extinct since the Cretateous period, but were found still alive in 1930. I have never stated that evolution is perfect, but, at least, it will evolve, according to concrete evidence!
William Mesiter also has found several trilobites in the fossilized, sandaled footprint of a man, but according to evolution trilobites became extinct 230 million years before the appearance of man, which would make this an impossibility. There has been another discovery such as this by geologist Clifford Burdick who studied the prints of a barefooted child containing a compressed trilobite.
This is 100% illogical. Trilobites were ocean animals. This would be like saying we can find human footprints next to giant squid. Why their fossils appear, though, is due to the nature of plate tectonics, which has reshaped the surface of the Earth repeatedly in the last billions of years, pushing and subducting parts of the Earth's crust (earthquakes are the result of this constant process).
Creationists propose a possible explanation--the collapse of a vast vapor canopy that enveloped the pre-Flood world. Such a canopy would have produced a worldwide greenhouse effect, meaning mild climate throughout with insignificant seasonal change. No rainfall/rainbows would have existed, rather a mist would rise from the earth that would water the face of the ground (Gen. 2:5-6; 8:22; 9:13). This canopy would help to explain why palm leaves, fruit trees, tropical marine crustaceans, coral reefs and vast amounts of subtropical plant life are buried under the polar regions. It's also believed that this vapor canopy may have filtered out harmful radiation from space which is known to have an extreme effect on mutations and the aging process. This canopy may havae been a key factor accounting for longevity before the Flood. After the Flood, the ages of the biblical patriarchs steadily declined:
Noah = 950 years
Salah = 433 years
Peleg = 239 years
Abraham = 175 years
Moses = 120 years
David = 70 years
Present = 70-80 years (Ps. 90:10)
LOL...this is just too much. I see, now, that the patriarchs all abided by the Julian / Gregorian calendar? Their ages lowered, because their calendars changed!
Most human mutations are irrelevant of light and radiation, and that's because the human process of meiosis, which creates sperm and eggs, is deliberately mutagenic. Otherwise, without this process, all children of a certain set of parents would be identical. In fact, the average human has, at least, eight mutations, with most being in "junk" DNA. This argument of yours is illogical as well.
It is just as ridiculous as the notion of "666," which are really three Hebrew characters that look like Arabic numeral sixes. Considering Europe didn't even adopt Arabic numerals until c. A.D. 1000, I doubt an ancient text would even have it.
And, as for the "vapor canopy," how do you explain the Ice Age, then? Glaciers don't and can't form in such a short time frame. Tropical fossils were found in Michigan as well, but was also buried under huge ice sheets. 10,000 years ago, we were in an Ice Age!
I don't know which collisions you refer to, but I do know that the solar system has been intricately created and that the earth's atmosphere protects us from approx. 20 million meteors that enter it each day at speeds of about 30 miles per second. Sounds like something is watching out for us
You mean, stuff like this?
This is in Arizona, and there are over 100 terrestrial impact craters on Earth. Of course, this one is dated 49,000 years ago, so I'm guessing those damn evolutionists invented it! And let's not forget the several mile crater off of the Yucatan peninsula...
Oh I also wanted to mention the thing about the Black Sea and there being no proof of a worldwide flood.... I do not feel the need to have this proven by present day men because if you turn to Genesis you will find that God informs Noah that ALL flesh on the earth shall perish... I don't think it would be right to alter God's words based on scientific assumptions. Where does it stop?
See? This is the problem with creationism, completely devoid of critical analysis, and, when backed into a corner, will invent anything to try and convince that it is true. No one still answered my question about Cain marrying someone who shouldn't exist...
Truthfully? It is my belief that the story of Adam and Eve is a modern mess. First off, it is the story of the creation of man (Hebrew="adam") and woman (Hebrew="yitzah"). I still haven't a clue where "Eve" came from. Genesis, being in a rare place of being likely pre-exilic in origin, exposes a likely cultural truth of Judaism: it was monotheistic in worship, but polytheistic in belief. In other words, they worshipped only the Jewish concept of God, but still believed that other gods existed. Baal, for instance, was the god of the Philistines. Yahweh, in contrast, was the god of the Jews. It is my hypothesis that this is where the idea of the "chosen people" arose from. Adam and Eve, being the first "chosen people"--in other words, being the first Jews, disobey God, and are cast out the garden, which could perhaps be the modern concept of "heaven." So, as a punishment for disobedience, they are cast into the already existant Earth, which is already populated full of non-"chosen people." This is why Cain can suddenly settle in Nod and marry, because it is a given that other people exist prior to them! The people of Nod are
not "chosen." Later exilic influence from Persian Zoroastrianism, which gave Judeo-Christianity the concept of Satan and angels, amongst other things, eliminates this polytheistic notion, and we see little other evidence, considering the rest of the Old Testament was all written after the exile.
But these are all stories--myths that all ancient cultures have--and we are foolish to take them for anything else.
Melon