phillyfan26
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For us, big government means overgoverning. It means things like wiretapping, survelliance, banning gays from marriage and other rights, etc.
Axver said:
Explain. Note that I'm mainly thinking healthcare, telecommunications, transport here.
phillyfan26 said:For us, big government means overgoverning. It means things like wiretapping, survelliance, banning gays from marriage and other rights, etc.
Dalton said:Well there are always going to be federal issues and there will always have to be federal laws. Like I said, I am not an anarchist in any sense. Government is a good thing. I simply believe that those government chores are handled better on the state level. Tax money can be used in a more focused way to benefit the people in the area that the taxes come from.
phillyfan26 said:It wields power because the US has a large population of religios fanatics and, as one FYM poster put it, "Fuck you, I got mine" attitudes. That's the United States Republican Party.
Axver said:On another note, PFan, I swear, Ziggy Stardust better be the second coming of Jesus. It's being a royal pain in the arse to transfer to my Mac for no apparent reason.
Axver said:What I find interesting is a socio-religious comparison between the US and the rest of the Western world. Things were fairly equal a century ago, all things considered, but while the rest of the place secularised, you guys developed fundamentalism in a big way.
Personally, I think religion is in the first stages of its death throes in the Western world, and although the US lags behind most other places in social issues at present, it'll join the trend sooner or later.
phillyfan26 said:
Just me as an example, I've become much less religious in the past five years. It's becoming a turn-off, because it's so ... wrong all the time.
phillyfan26 said:Well, it's not prog, but it's damn good. I think YLB put it best: "a classic in every sense of the word."
What other albums are you downloading?
Dalton said:Ax how old are you?
Axver said:One of the other Daniels is going to kill me if I don't download Muse live at Wembley soon.
phillyfan26 said:
Just me as an example, I've become much less religious in the past five years. It's becoming a turn-off, because it's so ... wrong all the time.
bono_man2002 said:
Actually you can probably wait a few more weeks until the DVD is released with more tracks, there should be leak of that audio available too.
But the CD is fantastic as it is!
Axver said:
Oh, does the CD not have the whole gig?
bono_man2002 said:
Nope. Its 11 or so tracks. Pretty much a taste tester for the DVD.
But there are some fucking great performances on it!
Axver said:
I was raised non-religious, had an atheist period, then a religious period, then realised I was right the first time.
Following the statistics, religion is absolutely fucked in New Zealand. At the start of the last century, over 90% of the New Zealand population was Christian. This only slowly declined; just before I was born, in the mid-eighties, 75% of New Zealand was Christian. But in my lifetime, it has plummeted. Now, only just over 50% of the population is Christian, 39% is explicitly "no religion", and if this trend continues on its current trajectory, within a decade, "no religion" will be the majority religious stance.
The crucial factor to note is that those in the 20-24 and 25-29 demographics in the mid-eighties who identified as no religion have not acquired religion later in life, i.e. it's not a youthful disregard for religion that later changes. They still today have the same rate of "no religion" now that they're 40-44 and 45-49. That, however, was still only a minority of the demographic - a very considerable one, but a minority. More ominously, the current 20-24 demographic is majority "no religion", with absolutely no indication that any change will occur.
And New Zealand has this funny habit of being a leader in social trends. Just look at women's rights ...
Axver said:
Wow, that's lame, I can't believe they wouldn't put the full gig on there.
Axver said:
I have to transfer every song individually. Each time, I get an error that the "file path is too deep", but it successfully transfers. This is lame. Not downloading anything else at the moment, though I know there's stuff I need to get onto. One of the other Daniels is going to kill me if I don't download Muse live at Wembley soon.
Dalton said:Does New Zealand have a state church?