Basstrap
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and how do you think Africa should be "stabalized"?
nbcrusader said:The suggestion that Bush has personal gain from invading Iraq is unsupportable.
YellowKite said:
One word: OIL
More specifically, Halliburton and Texas oilmen. Bush will have to go somewhere after he leaves DC [hopefully in Jan 2005] and it will be straight into the arms of his papa and his old oil cronies in Texas.
nbcrusader said:Try again.
It would be far easier to open Alaska to drilling than to invade another country, which supplies little oil to the US.
The Wanderer said:these folks have been planted there by the Bush Administration!
nbcrusader said:Sounds like a colorful scheme - a little out of synch with a country that promotes free trade. The argument was for Bush's personal gain. So, I say, try again.
Salome said:the war against Iraq IMO opinion was justified because of Iraq not following up on UN resolutions and because the UN failed to come to another (perhaps better) solution than war (and I blame Europe even more than the US for this happening)
it doesn't even matter much to do what the exact reasons are why Bush has decided to do something about Saddam and not go after every dictator in the world (though I think evidence shows that no other leader has been a thread to other countries more than Saddam)
because you won't rid the world of all evil it isn't bad when you at least do something about some of it
I do believe the people of Iraq rejoice being rid of Saddam
and I do believe that they are thrilled that they didn't have to wait another year/5 years/10 years for it to happen
nbcrusader said:Try again.
It would be far easier to open Alaska to drilling than to invade another country, which supplies little oil to the US.
The oil argument is speculative at best, coming from a pool of thin generalizations.
sharky said:Sorry but your oil argument doesn't hold water. So we get some oil from Iraq. We also get oil from Nigeria, which is in Africa. Wasn't someone in this thread bitching and moaning earlier about why we don't go in to Africa? And we had to increase our oil supply from Iraq because there was a shortage from Venezuela due to a strike there.
And if I recall correctly, Halliburton has been cut from the running for the Iraqi rebuilding process.
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:Talking about the wankers? Just tell me how many Iraqis are able to spell that word
Man Inside The Child said:according to my brother-in-law, who is the chief correspondent for bloomberg news in the middle - east, there are only a few hundred people chanting in the streets (not as many as CNN tries to portray). but it is no surprise to him that CNN has exaggerated yet another report. he also has the feeling that most of the paraders are paid off by the americans. He says that most people are too scared to do anything and nobody wants the americans around. Most people he talks to say that they don't want saddam but they don't want the americans to come and take their oil.
sharky said:Sorry but your oil argument doesn't hold water. So we get some oil from Iraq. We also get oil from Nigeria, which is in Africa. Wasn't someone in this thread bitching and moaning earlier about why we don't go in to Africa? And we had to increase our oil supply from Iraq because there was a shortage from Venezuela due to a strike there.
And if I recall correctly, Halliburton has been cut from the running for the Iraqi rebuilding process.
YellowKite said:Wherever we get our oil [Iraq, AK or Venezuela] it doesn't change the FACT that oil will be the end reward for Bush & Co.
whenhiphopdrovethebigcars said:
As soon as an African country gets a real pain in the ass, the leader of the free world will not care about invading, breaching international law, and about how many civil "casualities" it may take. After all the example has been set. Now he can afford anything. After not being charged for breaching international law one time, why should the administration be charged another time?
diamond said:great thread Headache.
This is must be a tough day for the Bush Haters -no matter how much they deny it
DB9
FizzingWhizzbees said:
that its energy requirements continue to increase.
The argument that oil was a motivation for the US in this war isn't just that the US wants access to the oil (ie to trade with Iraq) it's that it wants control of the oil reserves so it can decide who gains access to them.
Basstrap said:But what gives the US the right? Is it fair to all the countries in Africa and around the world who are oppressed by tyrants?