Fun stuff watching y'all play "I can be more outraged than that" while not bothering to read my post.
Looks like BVS is the winner just edging out Martha.
In the "why bother" Dept but for the record. We were talking about America in the 40's. Or so I thought.
Glenn Beck:
"I can't imagine that in 1948, they would have had 'Japanese Day' at the water park on December 8th."
Don't know why he choose Dec 8th but Maycocksean's response makes absolutely no sense in any case.
what seems to be lost on Beck is that the anti-Japanese prejudice is one of the great shames of World War II.
I'm surprised he isn't advocating internment camps.
Notice "anti-Japanese prejudice." No mention of Japanese-Americans. In fact Japanese-American wouldn't be mentioned until Philly posted AFTER my posts.
Your post only talked about Imperialist Japan. The injustice of the 40s was the treatment of Japanese-Americans and Japanese immigrants in America.
Yes, it was an injustice and more about that later, but it has NOTHING to do with what Glenn Beck said. But at least someone actually read my post. Thank you Philly.
SO what was I doing? What I've consistently done, defend conservatives and defend American history. Glenn Beck is right, America was not in any mood to celebrate anything Japanese in 1948. Just the opposite, with VJ Day still being a big celebration in the late 40's.
Now what is so controversial about me defending Beck and 'the Greatest generation" by saying:
And you'll see that there is no shame for dropping atomic bombs on Japan or showing
anti-Imperialist-Japan (later edited by me to the less clunky) anti-Empire of Japan prejudice.
Are you people so stuck in the politically correct 2010 that you must look down your nose on Americans of the 40's who in one Dec morning became the pissed off sleeping giant?
America's anti-Japanese prejudice in the 40's was no shame, in fact, it was not only warranted but vital.
Is this Dieman's "bigotted statement"?
Not to a nation at war against a country with the human rights record of Imperial Japan. We were right to hate that Japan and wish to pound it into complete submission. Dieman might not like that there was once a time we were concerned only with winning once we went to war. That appeasing the enemy has not always been a priority. And I know Dieman doesn't like that even Hollywood supported the cause in WWII; hence the outpouring of pro-American war films along with "anti-Japanese" themes in radio programs, films and yes, the 1944 WB cartoon 'Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips.'
Now, have I in the past on this board or would I now use terms like "nips" or "Japs" in any dealing? No, they are offensive terms. One of the reasons the "Greatest Generation" is just that is after the war in Europe and after the war in the Pacific, they came home. And the process of rebuilding those countries, including Japan, began. By the time of the next generation, mine the Baby Boomers. We were watching Godzilla movies on TV and listening to Cheap Trick at Budokan. And today Toyota is in NASCAR.
So what about
I consider Japan today to be one of our best trading partners
do you NOT understand? They are an ally and a friend.
Finally. As internment camps are mentioned I said this:
You'll get no defending of Japanese-Americans getting their rights taken away
Did everyone completely fail to read this? Really, how do you miss that? IT's the FIRST LINE OF MY POST. Just as I said, there is NO defense of Americans having their constitution rights stripped for no reason than they are of Japanese heritage. Again NONE. And I offered none!! But it is more a stain on the legacy of FDR than a "shame" of WWII that must be borne by all Americans. And it has absolutely nothing to do with why Americans were not going to be having "Japanese Day" at water parks in 1948.
So, where is "the beating, bleeding racist heart of right wing America" in my post that Irvine sees? (Of course Irvine sees "the beating, bleeding racist heart of right wing America" in everything not liberal group-think.)
What exactly is the "racist, homophobic bullshit," as martha so elegantly puts it only she can?
"FUCKING DISGUSTING!!!" Really?
When actual debate and discussion broke out, I've enjoyed being a member here. But that's increasingly rare. And I don't enjoy racial and religious tensions being heaped upon the political polarization that already exists. I'm sorry, I've tried to keep this fun but it just ceased to be.
Sayonara,
Willie