80sU2isBest said:
You talk about comparisons that are not well thought-out, but yours takes the cake.
I said something about melon's slight of conservatives, and you post examples of Spagnola's hatred?
HUH?
What is the connection, deep?
This thread was about flag-burning, and neither side had insulted a whole group of people - until melon. That's the "slight of conservatives" I was talking about.
He does that all the time. It doesn't make a difference whether it is actually part of the conversation or not.
VertigoGal said:in the case of someone putting swastikas on a jewish temple, for example, it seems to me like the person could only truly be convicted of vandalism. i dunno...
deep said:you don't see the difference
in a kid writing his name on a wall
neo nazis putting swastikas on a temple?
the intent and the harm inflicted on the victims
VertigoGal said:but i just don't know how i feel about the entire "hate crimes" concept. people have the right to be as bigoted and hateful as they want, its only the actual crime that should be punished. even in the case of someone putting swastikas on a jewish temple, for example, it seems to me like the person could only truly be convicted of vandalism. i dunno...
deep said:anyone who wear's
a shirt that reads
G-ot
A-ids
Y-et
and climbs a flag pole
and is joined by a GOP candidate in a parade
does more to slight conservatives than anything Melon could post.
BrownEyedBoy said:I think it's a silly thing. It's just a piece of cloth.
theblazer said:
And Koran is a just a bunch of paper. Yet we need to apologize for that?
theblazer said:And Koran is a just a bunch of paper. Yet we need to apologize for that?
Actually with some masking tape the Bible makes for some great games, I once scored a top left corner shot in Bible Soccer.melon said:
The Bible is a piece of paper. Pardon me while I wipe my ass with the Book of Leviticus.
Melon
melon said:
Until you're part of a hated minority, one will never understand the need for punishing "hate crimes." America, especially, has a long history of bigotry that needs to be broken. Maybe an extra punishment for crimes committed out of bigotry will help break that cycle.
Melon
Irvine511 said:as for flag burning ...
the reason i would never burn a flag is because i am allowed to burn the flag.
if flag burning were made illegal, i'd burn a flag in protest.
VertigoGal said:fuckers.
but not criminals.
youre spewing hate about the bible, thats very offensive to some christians i can imagine. but i dont see anyone coming to arrest you. fuck, the moderators arent even censoring you for it.
VertigoGal said:so burning the American flag *isn't* inciting violence toward America/Americans? now i'm confused.
VertigoGal said:so burning the American flag *isn't* inciting violence toward America/Americans? now i'm confused.
VertigoGal said:i do know what its like to be discriminated against. hey, wanna hear a jew joke? whats the difference between a jew and an apple pie? an apple pie doesnt scream when you put it in the oven.
VertigoGal said:How does the government know what your intent was when you burned the flag?
If you burn a flag and scream Fuck America while doing so, can you be arrested?
VertigoGal said:How does the government know what your intent was when you burned the flag?
If you burn a flag and scream Fuck America while doing so, can you be arrested?
this really is news to me, honestly.
BonosSaint said:
The government basically has to assume political speech as your intent. I also do not think you can get arrested for screaming Fuck America while burning a flag; however, you may get your ass kicked.
Moonlit_Angel said:Mmhm. A truly frightening time...I don't know how people managed to make it through that.
That Jew "joke" disturbs me more and more each time I read it. Seriously, that is just not cool. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that, VertigoGal .
Angela