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Also, an Australian woman lost a brother on MH370 and now lost her stepdaughter on MH17.
Unbelievable. Incomprehensible.
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Damn..
Also, an Australian woman lost a brother on MH370 and now lost her stepdaughter on MH17.
Unbelievable. Incomprehensible.
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and Ukranien jets were escorting that flight earlier for a while and didnt go near Russian border
Do you really believe that either of those governments/militaries are so stupid as to try to shoot down Putin or otherwise start a war? I just think that it makes absolutely no sense at all.
But would rebels have access to weaponry that can knock a plane out of the air at 32,000 feet? I understand that they have suppliers giving them weaponry, but that kind of weaponry?
Notice that Putin didn't explicitly say Ukraine shot it down. Putin didn't even deny that rebels were behind the shooting. Instead, Putin blamed Kiev for "the tensions" in the area. The fact that even Vlad has not denied that pro-Russians are involved is pretty much a smoking gun in my book.
I doubt it. Their best luck is to try and steal it from the Ukrainian army, the Ukrainians have already stated earlier that if they leave anything behind that it's going to be damaged and unusable.
So, apparently Malaysia Airlines is flying MH17 along the same route today.
President Obama said Friday that a Malaysia Airlines plane carrying nearly 300 people, including at least one U.S. citizen, was evidently shot down by an antiaircraft missile fired from an area controlled by pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.
In a White House news conference a day after the Boeing 777 crashed en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, Obama stopped short of saying who fired the missile or directly blaming Russia for the deaths, which he called “an outrage of unspeakable proportions.”
But he said the separatists “have received a steady flow of support from Russia,” including heavy arms, training and antiaircraft weapons. Pointing to rebel claims to have shot down several Ukrainian aircraft in recent weeks, including a Ukrainian fighter jet, Obama said it was “not possible for these separatists to function the way they’re functioning . . . without sophisticated equipment and sophisticated training, and that is coming from Russia.”
A tragedy, pretty flabbergasting to wake up to.
It's not something the US isn't guilty of either, is it?
From what I understood the UA government had declared it a no-fly zone, I don't remember it being reversed lately.
Where to start with this?
I do love it when many people just go the casual "Blame Russia!" route, and not taking into account the actions of the Ukrainian government which seems to get a free pass among many Westerners. And the whole "Putin wants the USSR back" is just lazy.
What are the odds the Russian army provided them, in an under-the-table sort of way?
It should be fairly easy to figure out where the missile originated from. The US experts were saying yesterday that they were able to confirm a missile was fired because of a heat map, so it follows that the heat map would reveal the origin of firing as well.
So, apparently Malaysia Airlines is flying MH17 along the same route today.
I think P--sy Riot and any other Russians who get silenced would agree that a hint of the USSR can be seen, even if obviously not full blown (as it would clearly not fly with people who lived through it). Or their new ban on swearing coming after their ban on positive speech towards homosexuality. I just don't like that a country that has produced some of the world's greatest art and architecture still have all these restrictions for fear it might go against the Church/Government wishes. Its still much better from the days in the USSR when people had to get Beatles albums on the black market in defiance.
As for what happened there really needs to be some sort of strict international standard going forward to not fly over conflict zones no matter how high up in the sky a plane is.
So...this is mind-boggling.
Dutch Cyclist Avoids Tragedy After Being Scheduled On Two Doomed Flights - ABC News