US Politics XXXV: My Insurrection Lasted More Than 4 Hours

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I think it was Hilary Clinton who had the best plan I've seen. Make two years of community college free or damn near free. 18 is far too young to be making financial decisions that will stick around for decades. Let people have a few years of low-stakes community college (or trade school) to get their bearings before they make significant financial investments in their degree or certification paths. It's criminal to allow young people to accrue $50k or more in debt for entry classes on degrees paths they might not even end up enjoying or pursuing in any meaningful way.

This would require some cultural work in de-stigmatizing community college, and especially in tempering the idea that a traditional college experience is some kind of social necessity in "finding yourself" or "growing up." I'm incredibly skeptical of the idea that pissing around in a dorm for a few years is some kind of pivotal entry point into young adulthood.

this right here is the way to go.

i'm fine with a limited cancelation of student debt. but that doesn't solve the actual structural issue around higher education - it's merely a stopgap program for SOME of those who have already been screwed by an inherently flawed system.

not everybody needs to go to college. not everybody knows what they want in life at 18. this shouldn't prevent you from earning a fair wage. it never used to. flipside - not everybody who DOES know what they want to do with their life should be forced to go into massive debt at the age of 18.

so yes - free/low cost community college (and as you said -de-stigmatizing of community college) . easier/quicker paths to degrees. TRADE schools. lower and harder caps on student loan repayment (and eventual forgiveness) for those who choose to public service.

government funded programs aimed to encourage students to major in areas that are needed by the nation - whether that's something that will help us fight climate change, or something simpler - like, oh, helping to curb the current shortage in teachers.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Making cc free still doesn’t address rising education costs. What good is it if cc is free but the bachelor’s degree is still “societally required” and someone is wagging 6.5% interest on my $100,000 bill?

To be clear I support the notion. Just don’t think it’s the same question.

 

[iron yuppie]

This is just a suspicion of mine, but if you had a critical mass of students electing for local community college for 2 years, it would cut into the needless competition so many universities engage in over rec centers, luxury apartment complexes, and other "amenities" that have little or nothing to do with professional training. I also suspect you have mountains of administrators hired to deal with dorm life and other aspects of the student social experience that aren't strictly necessary. Those are two inflationary pressures that could be mitigated. It's not the whole picture, but it's something.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Making cc free still doesn’t address rising education costs. What good is it if cc is free but the bachelor’s degree is still “societally required” and someone is wagging 6.5% interest on my $100,000 bill?

To be clear I support the notion. Just don’t think it’s the same question.

Well there's an entire mindset shift that needs to occur.

Not every job that requires a bachelor's degree NEEDS a bachelor's degree. There are also many programs that could be condensed into two or three years vs. the traditional 4 year degree. There are a ton of horse shit courses that you have to take your first few years that are largely unnecessary. I really needed to take history of the United States, astronomy, and improv theater to get a sports management degree?

Incentive colleges and businesses to adjust. Give out tax breaks to companies who hire people into apprenticeship programs. I dunno. I don't have all the answers here, but the way we're going now sure as shit ain't working.

Plus - even without the change - that two years of free community college significantly cuts in to the coat of a 4 year degree. You're only paying for two years now.

The cost needs to come down. I'm not arguing for free college for all or the cancelation of all student debt from here on out.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I do also think something that would need to go hand in hand with this is affordable housing.

Let's be real - a lot of kids out of high school need to get the hell away from their parents and home town in order to really flourish and find themselves. Four year college provides that opportunity. Most community colleges don't have dorms.

 

[Irvine511]

I really needed to take history of the United States, astronomy, and improv theater to get a sports management degree?

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This might be old fashioned if me, but I’d say yes. That part of college isn’t just being prepared professionally, it’s being prepared in general and learning some subjects beyond high school as it will make you and overall better sports manager, as well as better overall citizen. I fully agree that college isn’t for everyone, but I think that what we mean by “higher education” can and should include learning and information beyond one’s potential career, and that learning makes one better in the long run at one’s career. I’d argue that’s money we’ll spent.

 

[Hewson]

I really needed to take improv theater to get a sports management degree?

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I'd say it helped in the career path...

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Well there's an entire mindset shift that needs to occur.

Not every job that requires a bachelor's degree NEEDS a bachelor's degree. There are also many programs that could be condensed into two or three years vs. the traditional 4 year degree. There are a ton of horse shit courses that you have to take your first few years that are largely unnecessary. I really needed to take history of the United States, astronomy, and improv theater to get a sports management degree?

Incentive colleges and businesses to adjust. Give out tax breaks to companies who hire people into apprenticeship programs. I dunno. I don't have all the answers here, but the way we're going now sure as shit ain't working.

Plus - even without the change - that two years of free community college significantly cuts in to the coat of a 4 year degree. You're only paying for two years now.

The cost needs to come down. I'm not arguing for free college for all or the cancelation of all student debt from here on out.

I mean I don’t disagree with the concepts in principle. I just think again you’re addressing a different aspect of the problem. Plus you’re introducing new aspects with such a paradigm shift. I disagree that two free years means only two paid years are required. Education is a competitive baseline. Two years for free basically makes the master’s degree a requirement. Eliminating the need for the two year degree (or folding it into optional high school curriculum like the Brits) would probably be more effective. It’s a supply and demand issue at the end of the day.

100% of my debt came from one year of borrowing for said “required” masters. I don’t think that story is dissimilar to others. Undergrad, where I came from, was heavily subsidized by the state (as it should be). I will still stand firmly at “you must target borrowing practices” to get to the heart of the problem.

 

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1563204796131094528?s=21&t=lrFy_Om2j3mZBvVobfoe1g

What exactly is the point of having this? I don’t want to jump to the extreme but why did Trump need to hold on to this info ?

 

[Irvine511]

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1563204796131094528?s=21&t=lrFy_Om2j3mZBvVobfoe1g

What exactly is the point of having this? I don’t want to jump to the extreme but why did Trump need to hold on to this info ?

It’s information he can sell, and he is broke AF.

 

[mikal]

I wonder what kind of handwritten notes he put on those documents.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1563204796131094528?s=21&t=lrFy_Om2j3mZBvVobfoe1g

What exactly is the point of having this? I don’t want to jump to the extreme but why did Trump need to hold on to this info ?

Probably just a clown administration who wasn’t properly handling the docs.

HCS is serious.

 

[phanan]

https://twitter.com/DanRather/status/1563256423441522693?s=20&t=vHH_tKAykZfninSY9A3uag

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Probably just a clown administration who wasn’t properly handling the docs.

HCS is serious.

At first, sure. But they asked for it back, and he kept it anyways.

There's only two things that make sense as to why he would do that.

1. He's a delusional turd who truly thinks he's still president and thus needs this shit.

2. He plans to share it.


Even if it is 2, he'll claim 1, and unless they have proof that he was in contact with someone, it'll be hard to prove that he's not just a delusional clown.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I'd say it helped in the career path...

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

This might be old fashioned if me, but I’d say yes. That part of college isn’t just being prepared professionally, it’s being prepared in general and learning some subjects beyond high school as it will make you and overall better sports manager, as well as better overall citizen. I fully agree that college isn’t for everyone, but I think that what we mean by “higher education” can and should include learning and information beyond one’s potential career, and that learning makes one better in the long run at one’s career. I’d argue that’s money we’ll spent.

So I don't disagree that it's a bonus, and the improv actually does help when in front of an audience, or in an interview (yes, THAT'S IT Hewson)... Most of it wasn't necessary, and much of it was just a slightly more advanced version of what I had to take in high school.

I'm all in favor of bettering yourself - but I'm also in favor of a little pragmatism. There are things that could be cut out to speed up time and decrease debt.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

At first, sure. But they asked for it back, and he kept it anyways.

There's only two things that make sense as to why he would do that.

1. He's a delusional turd who truly thinks he's still president and thus needs this shit.

2. He plans to share it.


Even if it is 2, he'll claim 1, and unless they have proof that he was in contact with someone, it'll be hard to prove that he's not just a delusional clown.

In the IC it doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 2, your ass is stone-cold fired in either case. One of them imprisons you, sure, but the other is still potentially criminal to the common person like myself, depending upon the case. If it’s HCS? Lol if a person read on to HCS mishandled An HCS portion marked document, they’d probably be investigated for espionage.

 

[DaveC]

In the IC it doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 2, your ass is stone-cold fired in either case. One of them imprisons you, sure, but the other is still potentially criminal to the common person like myself, depending upon the case. If it’s HCS? Lol if a person read on to HCS mishandled An HCS portion marked document, they’d probably be investigated for espionage.

even as a nobody radio guy in the army 10 years ago handling barely-classified basic signal encryption codes, if i had handled those materials one-tenth as poorly as trump did, i would still be in the federal military prison today and probably for a long time to come.

 

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/frankfigliuzzi1/status/1563374118916960256?s=21&t=8r88bUg2-RnLFnfTmKuN0Q

Circumstantial, but it would not shock any of us to find out Trump was letting our enemies in on all our secrets.

The stories that will come out will only get worse. We know that because since 2016 that’s been the case with everything Trump / GQP

 

[Irvine511]

Some of us have been calling Trump an asset/spy since 2016.

Seems we were right all along. Again. Just like Hillary was right about everything.

I’m also excited that the “Russia Hoax” is now being understood as, itself, a Bob Barr-created hoax, and the collaboration and coverup was there all along and manipulated by Barr.

 

[MrPryck2U]

Agreed, 100%. I know some people think it's overblown, but I disagree. I think history will show that Biden winning in 2020 was one of the most important moments in American history, even if Biden doesn't even come close to cracking a Top 20 Presidents list.

It got Shitbag out of office, but now all those assholes think Biden raised the gas prices and is the cause of inflation when it's really all the greedy corporations making up for lost business during the quarantine.

Biden's election led to an accepted insurrection. Half the country doesn't give a fuck.

 

[BEAL]

https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1563843608264019971?s=21&t=Y7d38MwvR6lGRKyomOgG7w

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

It's not an accident that most of the GOP have shut up and want to turn the focus back to caravans and inflation all of a sudden.

 

[phanan]

Maybe they can get some new convoys going.

 

[Irvine511]

It's not an accident that most of the GOP have shut up and want to turn the focus back to caravans and inflation all of a sudden.

Ashley’s “diary” has suddenly shot to the top of the MAGA charts.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Just Trump playing 4D chess. You just don't understand because you do whatever the lamestream media tells you maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

 

[BEAL]

What does Trump have in Lindsey that really isn’t publicly speculated already ?

The threats of violence is all the GQP have left to stick against the wall.

Yes it’s unprecedented to investigate and potentially prosecute a former President. That’s because we’ve never had one so morally bankrupt and criminal before.

This isn’t a political witch hunt, it’s a test to see if we believe in the rule of law.

I don’t see there being mass riots if and when Trump is indicted or if he’s ever locked up. I think we are in for decades of GQP terrorism like the FBI shooter, and potential strikes on other government buildings.

 

[Irvine511]

What does Trump have in Lindsey that really isn’t publicly speculated already ?
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I dig into this sometimes … it can’t just be being gay, since we all basically know that. And it would seem to have to be something stronger than pictures with a DC escort (or if you want to scar yourself, look up “ladybugs”).

Some think this picture is one of LG swimming naked in a pool and in the background is a Russian escort …

https://twitter.com/gregminnick_/status/1522062857311080449?s=21&t=lYe-3E9Hjso6r7rWpx9ecQ

There’s the usual underage speculation … but what grabs my attention is less sexual and more financial and possibly far worse … remember a couple weeks before the 2020 election when LG was almost in Teresa in TV crying about money and how he was going to lose? And then he won by 10 points?

I’d look at those voting outcomes and ask questions.

This is just what piques my interest and what I think is genuinely strange and high stakes! There’s no theory here.

And I think it’s less about what Trump may have and more that he’s the messenger for the Russians.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/14/politics/lindsey-graham-hacking-russia-donald-trump/index.html

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[Headache in a Suitcase]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/08/26/remote-work-outsourcing-globalization/

go back to the office people. it's not so bad.

When offshoring methodically disemboweled the Rust Belt, white-collar Americans thrived, free to enjoy the spoils of globalization safe in the knowledge that their jobs could not be outsourced easily to cheap foreign rivals. Now, some economists say the remote-work revolution may have changed that almost overnight.

“If you can do your job from home, be scared. Be very scared,” Richard Baldwin, an economist at the Graduate Institute in Geneva, said in a recent video. “Because somebody in India … or wherever is willing to do it for much less.”

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I dig into this sometimes … it can’t just be being gay, since we all basically know that. And it would seem to have to be something stronger than pictures with a DC escort (or if you want to scar yourself, look up “ladybugs”).

Some think this picture is one of LG swimming naked in a pool and in the background is a Russian escort …

https://twitter.com/gregminnick_/status/1522062857311080449?s=21&t=lYe-3E9Hjso6r7rWpx9ecQ

There’s the usual underage speculation … but what grabs my attention is less sexual and more financial and possibly far worse … remember a couple weeks before the 2020 election when LG was almost in Teresa in TV crying about money and how he was going to lose? And then he won by 10 points?

I’d look at those voting outcomes and ask questions.

This is just what piques my interest and what I think is genuinely strange and high stakes! There’s no theory here.

And I think it’s less about what Trump may have and more that he’s the messenger for the Russians.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/14/politics/lindsey-graham-hacking-russia-donald-trump/index.html

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i looked it up, and i now hate you.