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I sure hope NYS/NYC will do serious monitoring, and preventing people from coming here, or monitoring their quarantining. We suffered badly. We have to do the best we can to protect ourselves after all the suffering, deaths, sacrifices, that have happened here. :sad:
 
i know we've all been (rightly) pissing on the USA for it's poor leadership creating an unnecessary crisis. but there are other countries dealing with spikes right now, which makes me pessimistic globally, especially as we've hit the summer midpoint and Europe will once again go back indoors in the fall.

countries to watch: Israel, Australia, Croatia, Japan, India, South Africa.

and then there's Brazil.

long story short: it's going to come back around until we have a vaccine.
 
Other countries are seeing surges and i think that’s expected. Some of it due to nature of a virus and maybe some of those countries have relaxed a little too fast.

Difference is they actually controlled it once. We didn’t and still are doing it half assed.

I also feel a lot of people are resting on a vaccine being a guarantee. If one does come out i think it’ll be half effective at best.

That’s better than nothing but how will it be spun ? A large percentage of people won’t wear a mask, will they take a vaccine that may not work? What will the anti-vaxxers be able to pull off ? If 30% of population takes a shot that’s 50% effective I’m not sure it pushes us far enough ahead of things.
 
Irvine511 said:
My optimist on this subject is the only thing keeping actual depression at bay for the time being.

But I’m already worried that life as we knew it is gone, vaccine or not.
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Yea I mean... there's so much unknown. And I get the pessimism, I really do. And god knows I've had some very dark nights since this whole thing began.

What I keep coming back to is what happened after the 1918 pandemic... the roaring 20s. I also see our stupidity in dealing with this issue now as, in a fucked up way, a positive for how we'll recover... people are desperate to get back to "normal."

It all obviously depends on the vaccine - and for now all the news that's coming out is positive on that front. We had our first candidate enter the final stages of testing just the other day - so that has me very optimistic that we're going to have a good 2021.

And yes, I know what came after the 20s.

There's a lot left to figure out... but if we enter 2021 with a working vaccine and the stain of Trump removed? Things can really take off.

New York was never going to recover after 9/11. Nobody would want to live or work in a highrise again.

This was immediately followed by the biggest period of economic growth and building boom in NYC since they built the Empire State Building.

I'd prefer not to think about where we'll be if the vaccine fails and trump wins. But I'm still overly optimistic about what the post pandemic, post trump America will look like
 
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Headache in a Suitcase said:
Yea I mean... there's so much unknown. And I get the pessimism, I really do. And god knows I've had some very dark nights since this whole thing began.

What I keep coming back to is what happened after the 1918 pandemic... the roaring 20s. I also see our stupidity in dealing with this issue now as, in a fucked up way, a positive for how we'll recover... people are desperate to get back to "normal."

It all obviously depends on the vaccine - and for now all the news that's coming out is positive on that front. We had our first candidate enter the final stages of testing just the other day - so that has me very optimistic that we're going to have a good 2021.

And yes, I know what came after the 20s.

There's a lot left to figure out... but if we enter 2021 with a working vaccine and the stain of Trump removed? Things can really take off.

New York was never going to recover after 9/11. Nobody would want to live or work in a highrise again.

This was immediately followed by the biggest period of economic growth and building boom in NYC since they built the Empire State Building.

I'd prefer not to think about where we'll be if the vaccine fails and trump wins. But I'm still overly optimistic about what the post pandemic, post trump America will look like
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Did you read this article too?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/i-predict-your-predictions-are-wrong/611896/
 
GA Governor Kemp is voiding all mask mandates that were passed by cities / counties.

GA has seen its cases and deaths rise over the last few weeks.

I don’t think you could handle this worse than what we have done.

Models are predicting 224,000 deaths by November 1st.

That number goes up to 240,000 if we don’t get our mask and social distance game solidified.
 
Kemp has come across as the worst "leader" during this pandemic, even worse than Trump, hard as it may be to believe. dates all the way back to his astonishment regarding asymptomatic spread 6 weeks after it was widely reported.
 
Hewson said:
Kemp has come across as the worst "leader" during this pandemic, even worse than Trump, hard as it may be to believe. dates all the way back to his astonishment regarding asymptomatic spread 6 weeks after it was widely reported.
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Ron DeSantis says hi
 
I've only been going 1x month to pick up meds out of my neighborhood, but it's the next one south of me. Then had to get a regular wifi signal (only have by phone data) for an cellphone system upgrade so I went to the next neighborhood west of me where I could get free wifi in the subway mezzanine.

But Thurs I finally made a longer trip (relatively speaking) about 4 1/2 miles away - but that was 3 buses each way! I won't take the subway unless absolutely necessary (I deeply appreciate the subway but not with covid19 drifting around). Yes, I always wear a mask as I leave my apartment.

So I went to :hyper: Trader Joe's.
First "big" trip since early March!!! Got yummy stuff. Good staples, and extra fun stuff. :yippie:
I also got off at 100th St and Central Park West; the first time since last Fall that I was by a big, beautiful, green park! :heart::heart::heart: A few Happy Tears were blinked back. My neighborhood is below average in trees. :( Still, not the worst by far. Between my building and the next we have 3 6 story high beautiful, big trees. :love: We had a whole bunch replanted ?8 years back but many of those have died in the past 4 years. :(
 
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My Dad died two weeks ago. Thankfully not from covid, he never tested positive in spite of being in a facility with many cases. He had serious health issues, he bounced back so many times. He just couldn't this time.

I was able to visit him the day before he died, had to wear all kinds of protective gear and it was so strange in the middle of my sadness. I had preplanned his funeral a few months after losing my Mom, according to his wishes.

All was set until it was almost cancelled by covid, by a late day call the day before. A church staff member's wife had tested positive. Luckily they were able to find a replacement priest and music people from elsewhere in the state.

So f you 2020 again. I miss my Dad, but I am relieved that he'll never have to face the possibility of this damn virus again. He was a decorated US Army veteran who lived with the visible and invisible wounds of war. And he was a Republican who thought Trump was a fool and an idiot.
 
I'm so sorry Mrs. S. The last couple of years have been hard and not kind. I am glad that you got to see him, even with the weird and awkward circumstances. And I hope that his journey is easy and he is at peace as well.

Please don't forget to take care of yourself as well in the coming days and weeks. :hug:
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
My Dad died two weeks ago. Thankfully not from covid, he never tested positive in spite of being in a facility with many cases. He had serious health issues, he bounced back so many times. He just couldn't this time.

I was able to visit him the day before he died, had to wear all kinds of protective gear and it was so strange in the middle of my sadness. I had preplanned his funeral a few months after losing my Mom, according to his wishes.

All was set until it was almost cancelled by covid, by a late day call the day before. A church staff member's wife had tested positive. Luckily they were able to find a replacement priest and music people from elsewhere in the state.

So f you 2020 again. I miss my Dad, but I am relieved that he'll never have to face the possibility of this damn virus again. He was a decorated US Army veteran who lived with the visible and invisible wounds of war. And he was a Republican who thought Trump was a fool and an idiot.
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So very sorry to hear about your Dad.
You have my number if you want to talk or vent.
My thoughts are with you and the rest of your family.
 
anitram said:
I'm so sorry Mrs. S. The last couple of years have been hard and not kind. I am glad that you got to see him, even with the weird and awkward circumstances. And I hope that his journey is easy and he is at peace as well.

Please don't forget to take care of yourself as well in the coming days and weeks. :hug:
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Thank you Martina. Unfortunately for me it's actually been about six very difficult years. I'm still here, most days I wonder how and why honestly.

My Dad and I reconciled when my Mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer. He called, and I just let everything go. After my Mom died I visited him every week, and we finally had the relationship I always wanted. He always suffered from the invisible wounds of war, and from things that happened in his family growing up. Patterns repeat themselves if you don't get help.

He didn't suffer when the time came, and that's all I wanted for him. And for me, I have so much peace in my heart that we reconciled. But it still hurts so much, and it intensifies the grief about my Mom.
 
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