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"dangling the open borders/free for all carrot" is a little trite...
If Germany wants them they should just send a fleet of Lufthansa planes to Izmir, Turkey and airlift them. Same goes for other countries.
I believe there's a EU law stating they need to be physically present in the EU to claim asylum.
There is also an EU law that the first EU country into which they cross, they must seek asylum there. Which nobody is doing.
As I stated at the beginning of this essay, the refugee regime is at a crossroads. Created in the aftermath of the Second World War, the regime was a product of its time. Since then, international society has evolved. The distribution of power in the international system has changed, as has the nature of displacement. As asylum and immigration have become more politicized, so too has the protection space available to refugees diminished.
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Old assumptions no longer apply. Refugees are not an inevitable cost on host states; they can also be a socioeconomic benefit. States are no longer the only protection actors; markets also matter for the outcomes for refugees.
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To renegotiate it today would be almost politically impossible; indeed, it would likely result in a worse agreement than was arrived at in 1951.
COLOGNE, Germany (AP) - More women came forward Wednesday alleging they were sexually assaulted and robbed during New Year's Eve celebrations in the German city of Cologne, as police faced mounting criticism for their handling of the incident.
At least 106 criminal complaints have been filed since last week, Cologne police spokesman Christoph Gilles said. The figure has increased from 90 since Tuesday.
"At least three quarters have a sexual component. In two cases we are investigating crimes that amount to rape," Gilles told The Associated Press.
About 1,000 men described by police as being of "Arab or North African origin" gathered around Cologne's main station, next to the city's famous cathedral, on the night from Thursday to Friday. Smaller groups then surrounded individual women, harassed them and stole their belongings.
Police initially failed to mention the assaults in report the following morning, describing the festivities as "largely peaceful."
Details of the attacks only emerged over the weekend and calls have grown for a comprehensive review of police actions on the night, after some witnesses claimed that officers didn't stop the attackers.
Gilles said police were well prepared on the night, but "surprised" by the scale and aggression of the attacks.
Mayor Henriette Reker said she expected police to analyze what went wrong and "draw consequences from that."
She didn't elaborate on what that would entail. Police chief Wolfgang Albers has shrugged off questions about his own future, saying that he will stay in his post, though he acknowledged that the initial failure to mention the assaults was a mistake.
Ralf Jaeger, North Rhine-Westphalia state's interior minister, said he expected a detailed report from Cologne police this week on who knew what when.
"The Cologne police force must clear up meticulously what happened where and when, what police could know and evaluate when and where, and what measures have to be taken."
Gilles, the police spokesman, said the city has 10 officers working on the attacks and four men have been detained.
Among the angles police are investigating is whether there are any links to similar crimes committed over the past two years in the nearby city of Duesseldorf, where men have groped women to distract them before stealing their belongings. The two cities are 40 kilometers (25 miles) apart.
Markus Niesczeri, a spokesman for Duesseldorf police, said that since the start of 2014, officers there have identified more than 2,000 suspects of North African origin in connection with organized thefts, though he didn't say how many. He declined to say whether there have been any arrests in those cases.
"At the moment we can't make a serious connection because we don't have the perpetrators from New Year's Eve," Gilles said. "It's not excluded that there are overlaps, but that's still the subject of investigation."
Police are encouraging more women to come forward.
"Most of the victims were from outside Cologne who filed criminal complaints in their home towns or with federal police," Gilles said, adding that they included women of all ages and nationalities.
In addition to widespread shock over the scale and nature of the attacks, the incident has also fueled public debate about Germany's ability to integrate large numbers of migrants.
Germany registered nearly 1.1 million people as asylum seekers last year, according to Interior Ministry figures released Wednesday, and some politicians who have called for limits on migration have seized on the incident in Cologne to bolster their position.
Germany's top security official stressed that those involved must be punished regardless of where they come from. Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said that "you cannot draw a general suspicion against refugees from the indications that they were perhaps people who looked North African."
He added that "a bit of patience is necessary to clear up as completely as possible the structure of the perpetrators and the organizational structures there might have been," including whether there was any link to similar, smaller-scale incidents on New Year's Eve in Hamburg.
De Maiziere noted that, under German law, criminal behavior has a direct effect on a person's asylum proceedings if he or she is sentenced to at least three years in prison. He said that "we will have to talk about whether that needs to be changed."
In any case, "anyone who commits serious crimes, whatever status he is in, must reckon with being deported from Germany," de Maiziere said.
Antonia Rabente, a 26-year-old student in Cologne, said the mood in the city was divided.
"On the one hand there's a feeling that what happened is wrong and many people concerned about this. But where people are split is in how to respond," she said. "I think it's important to keep the focus on the women who were affected. They need to be the focus of attention now and not misused for attacks on the right to asylum."
About 100 people protested Wednesday against a far-right rally near the train station that numbered less than 10 people.
Watching from nearby, Gudrun Sauer, a retired civil servant, said she was disappointed by the events and called for a change in the law to allow foreigners found guilty of serious crimes to be deported regardless of whether they face possible persecution in their home country.
But she disagreed with those who blamed the latest wave of refugees for the assaults.
"The people who come here and went through such hardship, they're hoping for a better future here," said Sauer. "I don't think they'd risk doing something like that. You shouldn't throw everything in one pot."
Cologne's mayor, meanwhile, was mocked on social media for saying, when asked Tuesday about what women can do to protect themselves better: "There is always the possibility of keeping a certain distance, more than an arm's length" from strangers.
Some of those who criticized her felt that Reker was blaming women for the attacks and lambasted the idea that women could have simply protected themselves by keeping men at arm's length.
Reker said Wednesday that she regretted any misunderstanding, but had merely been pointing to existing prevention and counseling programs in response to a journalist's question.
"The priority is for concrete security to be provided on our streets and squares," she said in a statement.
I saw a post and video on Facebook today on the riots occurring in Europe.
I have not seen anything on this in the mainstream U.S. media.
I did a Google search and got a lot of hits.
This may not have involved Syrian refugees, but could easily start a backlash:
The fact this involved hundreds of men and seems coordinated throughout the country sounds terrifying to me, especially as a woman.
And I don't even want to know what's going through the mind of that Cologne mayor ?
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This may not have involved Syrian refugees, but could easily start a backlash:
The fact this involved hundreds of men and seems coordinated throughout the country sounds terrifying to me, especially as a woman.
And I don't even want to know what's going through the mind of that Cologne mayor ?
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This may not have involved Syrian refugees, but could easily start a backlash:
The fact this involved hundreds of men and seems coordinated throughout the country sounds terrifying to me, especially as a woman.
And I don't even want to know what's going through the mind of that Cologne mayor ?
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Although there have been reports of smaller scale incidents in Stuttgart and Hamburg, there's no evidence of these being coordinated and neither is there evidence they were committed by refugees. By saying the perpetrators 'looked Arab or North African' doesn't mean they were refugees, many German citizens are North African/Arab. It's a scheme that's been used for a while, gangs of petty thieves approach women and verbally harass them to divert their attention and steal small belongings such as phones, wallets etc. It has to be rightfully treated as a crime, however it can't be used as a tool to debate cultural attitudes towards women as some have been doing. Such a shame.
No doubt, the position of women in most Arabic societies is far from ideal, often grim.
What is wrong with Slovenia?
Reactionary right wingers and their cultural supremacy idiocy aside, I think it was a terrible idea of Merkel to basically invite a million people over with NO plan on how to get there and seemingly little plan of what to do with them once they are there. It's unbelievably irresponsible, it strained the resources of poor transit nations and brought up old fights (specifically in the Balkans). Furthermore, the screening was poor to non-existent all at the expense of the neediest refugees who had neither the wherewithal nor the funds to traipse around Europe like many young male migrants. The proper screening and transports should have been based in the many refugee camps in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria to ensure that triage is followed. If you truly care about refugees, that should have been advocated and also an orderly pattern of bringing them out west such that each of them is able to receive the attention and resources to integrate and thrive. It isn't as if this isn't being done by other nations - Germany screwed the pooch on this one and no, you don't need to be a skinhead to realize how problematic their approach has been.
Actually it is almost universally APPALLING. We (the west) have completely failed women in these nations, because we'd rather get cheap oil. It is shocking what goes on in the 21st century. As a woman, I'm ashamed.
No denying it, but isn't it also interesting how we are immediately focussed on that?
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The criticism is to how the role of women in these societies has all of a sudden become cause for concern.
See I don't see this at all. Now you live in Germany and therefore are much more familiar with general European news, commentators and attitudes and have a totally different perspective. In North America, the women of the Arab world are like the forgotten minority. Every once in a while you get some outrage about a woman being stoned, or not being permitted to drive, but ultimately there has been no organized, concerted effort to care or do anything about it. The US government is in bed with the Saudi royal family, a relationship so ingrained that for the duration of the Iran nuclear deal negotiations every second (Republican) commentator on CNN and similar channels was despairing over how much this is upsetting the Saudis. Hello, who cares? The Saudis are the most brutal, awful, entitled dictatorship around, a major funding nation of terrorism, one of the main antagonists of Israel (and yet nobody wants to talk about it), but heaven forbid anyone calls for real change there.
The Arab nations, when it comes to women's rights, are living in the stone age, maybe even worse than that. And this is a good place where you can actually separate Islam from culture to a degree, because there are other Islamic majority countries where the situation is not as bad although if we are being honest, the rights of women in Muslim majorities are extremely poor, it is just a question of degree. But that's a debate for another day.