Irvine511
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The Tea Party doesn't care about deficits. They only care about taxes.
10 of top 15 richest counties are in D.C. suburbs
WASHINGTON - Ten of the 15 richest counties in the nation are in the Washington suburbs, with Loudoun and Fairfax counties in the No. 1 and No. 2 spots, according to the website Main Street, which created its list from 2010 census data.
As other areas of the nation saw huge job losses and declining property values during the recession, the D.C. suburbs maintained their stability, in part because of government, defense and technology jobs.
Haven't we seen an increase in private jobs and a decrease in public jobs since Obama has been in office?10 of top 15 richest counties are in D.C. suburbs - WTOP.com
The new permanent ruling class.
Occupy Wall St for being clueless about who's really making out like bandits in Obama's America.
The Tea Party and the horse they rode in on for being vilified in 10 of the 15 richest counties in the country.
Only in D.C. it's lawyers, lobbyists, consultants and government contractors at the teat of Leviathan.Haven't we seen an increase in private jobs
and a decrease in public jobs since Obama has been in office?
The new permanent ruling class.
Only in D.C. it's lawyers, lobbyists, consultants and government contractors at the teat of Leviathan.
Yes, no doubt there's plenty of retired federal employees in these counties living quite comfortably off their cushy pensions.
Only in D.C. it's lawyers, lobbyists, consultants and government contractors at the teat of Leviathan.
Yes, no doubt there's plenty of retired federal employees in these counties living quite comfortably off their cushy pensions.
not a family of four in Loudon County who face brutal 2-hour commutes on 66so they can get to a job managing data for DHS.so they don't have live with violent crime, drugs, vagrants, apathetic schools or Marion Barry.
well that's class resentment and anger if i've ever heard it. why do you hate people who played by the rules and earned their retirement?
Retired government workers are twice as likely to get a pension as their counterparts in the private sector, and the typical benefit is far more generous. The nation's 6 million retired civil servants — teachers, police, administrators, laborers — received a median benefit of $17,640 in 2005, according to the Congressional Research Service. Eleven million private-sector retirees covered by traditional pensions got $7,692.
That reads better.
And this is a 2007 story; the gap has grown after the recession. Both state and federal. And oh by the way, the taxpayers are on the hook for the vastly over-promised and under-funded public pension plans and WE'RE BROKE.
Only in D.C. it's lawyers at the teat of Leviathan.
INDY500 said:10 of top 15 richest counties are in D.C. suburbs - WTOP.com
The new permanent ruling class.
Occupy Wall St for being clueless about who's really making out like bandits in Obama's America.
The Tea Party and the horse they rode in on for being vilified in 10 of the 15 richest counties in the country.
but those are good, honorable lawyers working hard to help billion-dollar corporations not pay any taxes. they're not sucking at my very own teat like those loathsome government lawyers.
Irvine511 said:i don't think that all of INDY's criticisms are wrong, per se. i think a vastly simplified tax code and pension reform are two important steps to take.
i just think he's aiming at the wrong targets. your average government worker is hardly your enemy.
So if I follow you, Big Government creates these loopholes precicesly so the corporations will have to hire armies of lawyers. . .
The noble corporations would NEVER lobby for these selfsame loopholes in the first place, would they.
No,of course not.
i think a vastly simplified tax code and pension reform are two important steps to take.
Yes, well who writes the loophole-laden tax codes that require corporations to hire armies of tax lawyers?
The people that need those loopholes.
The 'special' people, interested in it.
Whatever they pay armies of tax lawyers, they save more in those same loopholes. Cost effective. Common sense business practice.
So to specifically answer your question, it is the special interests that hire lawyers to craft legislation that is then incorporated by the politicians.
Look at the Health Care Reform bill for a perfect illustration.
Who wrote it? Republicans? Democrats? Uh, no. The Health insurance lobby wrote it - that's why it was done behind closed doors.
They said "we can digest this...and we won't fight it and we won't fight against your re-elections" and that's why it included the mandate that nobody outside of the insurance companies really wanted. It was a compromised dogshit bill and even Obama knew it.
So yeah, about having to hire "armies" of lawyers to deal with tax codes...why would they do that? Because it is to their advantage.
See: General Electric.
Why were those tax codes so advantageous to GE and not average tax payers? Because they are in bed with the same people making those loop holes and then working to effectuate them.
THIS is the problem with the whole U.S. government.
The system is already bought and paid for.
They are, by far, the most powerful 'people' in the United States.
Far more powerful than the measly President.
In fact you could say that they are our representative Government.
Look...I'm a free market capitalist. I truly am.
But we have to be reasonable on all fronts.
Our Government is not a true representative democracy.
And until people stop believing the partisan rhetoric (from either side) designed to keep the status quo, nothing can progress towards real change.
Capitalism isn't evil but corporatism is reality.
We need regulations and a free market.
And a government once again accountable to the people.
And by "people" I don't mean corporations.
I mentioned the army of corporate lobbyists at the teat of government a few posts back. It's fine to be sarcastic with me but do try and keep up.
The people that need those loopholes.
The 'special' people, interested in it.
Whatever they pay armies of tax lawyers, they save more in those same loopholes. Cost effective. Common sense business practice.
So to specifically answer your question, it is the special interests that hire lawyers to craft legislation that is then incorporated by the politicians.
Look at the Health Care Reform bill for a perfect illustration.
Who wrote it? Republicans? Democrats? Uh, no. The Health insurance lobby wrote it - that's why it was done behind closed doors.
They said "we can digest this...and we won't fight it and we won't fight against your re-elections" and that's why it included the mandate that nobody outside of the insurance companies really wanted. It was a compromised dogshit bill and even Obama knew it.
So yeah, about having to hire "armies" of lawyers to deal with tax codes...why would they do that? Because it is to their advantage.
See: General Electric.
Why were those tax codes so advantageous to GE and not average tax payers? Because they are in bed with the same people making those loop holes and then working to effectuate them.
THIS is the problem with the whole U.S. government.
The system is already bought and paid for.
Crony capitalism 101. Republicans and Democrats are equally guilty and I agree, it has to be changed. Uniform tax codes, and lessening the governments' involvement in the economy is the only way to get corporations competing in the marketplace, rather than K street, with their dollars. the only way to slow down the building of McMansions around Washington, D.C.
The exact opposite direction this administration is taking us.