Moment Of Surrender Appreciation Thread

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ultraviolet353 said:
i could see them doing it live this way--what i like about this version is the song builds to a crescendo at the end which the original does not, and could have used.
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Have you ever noticed UC is the continuation of MOS, at least thematically? It's almost like Fez-Being born, but they differ more musically. Some people say this album has no experimentation....
 
hmm lets see... we can either put up with wanky pretentious lyrics of this song or we can have ->

Lift me, lift me,
I attain my dream
I lost myself, I lost the
Heartache calling me
I lost myself in sorrow
I lost myself in pain
I lost myself in clarity,
Memory, leave, leave
 
CrashedCarDriver said:
hmm lets see... we can either put up with wanky pretentious lyrics of this song or we can have ->

Lift me, lift me,
I attain my dream
I lost myself, I lost the
Heartache calling me
I lost myself in sorrow
I lost myself in pain
I lost myself in clarity,
Memory, leave, leave
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We get it that you don't like this song, but what's truly baffling are that your reasons for not liking make no sense what so ever...

First you say it's trying to be 'One' which couldn't be further from the truth. Then you say it has "wanky pretentious" lyrics???:huh:

I don't think you get the song at all.

Instead of posting REM lyrics why don't you try explaining why they are wanky pretentious?

:crack:
 
The "stations of the cross" part really illuminates it for me. It's like an addicted person realizing that Christ offers a chance to change your ways and through meditation on the crucifixtion everything else falls away and what's essential rises.

The band always felt the lyrics for Bad weren't quite finished so I guess they don't have to worry about that anymore. :D
 
CrashedCarDriver said:
hmm lets see... we can either put up with wanky pretentious lyrics of this song or we can have ->

Lift me, lift me,
I attain my dream
I lost myself, I lost the
Heartache calling me
I lost myself in sorrow
I lost myself in pain
I lost myself in clarity,
Memory, leave, leave
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ohh good lord, seriously, dont tell me we have another one !!!

someone who truly believes they are a better writer than Bono and should be doing his job for him!!!???? wow.... seriously, how arrogant can you possibly get...:doh::down::doh:

Bono is a master at story telling, and putting you INSIDE the moment! inside the grief and resolution all under the same breath... i've been listening to this song religiously while driving down the freeway through work, and still am amazed at the clarity of his vision throughout...

I’ve been in every black hole
At the altar of the dark star
My body’s now a begging bowl
That’s begging to get back
Begging to get back to my heart
To the rhythm of my soul
To the rhythm of my unconsciousness
To the rhythm that yearns
To be released from control

truly one of the best lyrical TUNES they've ever written.. i honestly cannot wait to hear this monster live!!! hell it'll probably be a ten minute song by the time they come around VAN CITY!!! :drool:
 
I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the reason people sometimes don't get U2 is that the frame of reference is all wrong. Most people look at U2 as musicians and think of what they write as songs. But in reality except for ATYCLB and HTDAAB most of their albums only have a few "songs". U2 are painters really. Larry and Adam create the canvas and maybe put on the base coat or block in some elements and provide the base colors. Edge and Bono join in on mixing the pigments then they all start throwing paint on the canvas. Bono doesn't so much tell stories most of the time as he paints pictures. While I might not be able to make sense of the actual words sometimes I can usually picture or feel what Bono is getting at. And it is never just about the sound. I find I don't get the full effect of a U2 song until I've seen the band perform it. Since I haven't actually seen them live yet, only on video, I can only assume that may add another dimension to my understanding. The way Bono sings a song matters as much as the sound does. Everything from his body language to the expression on his face and his interaction with the others and the audience becomes a necessary part of the experience. This is why the band always says that they don't know what the songs are until they have shared them with the audience because the audience is a part of the song as well. I think this may also be why no one has ever had a bigger hit with a U2 song then U2 did originally(as far as I know). Dylan famously told Bono that people would remember U2 songs for a long time but no one else could sing them. In contrast Dylan's songs were quite often bigger hits for others than they were for himself. For me U2 songs aren't something I hear they are something I experience. Very few other artists make me feel that way.

Dana
 
I think it was Monday of this week but I've truly accepted the greatness of MOS. I was a fan of it from the beginning now I claim it in my top 10.

Its just so grand & beautiful leaving the listener lost for thought :drool:
 
rihannsu said:
I've been slowly coming to the conclusion that the reason people sometimes don't get U2 is that the frame of reference is all wrong. Most people look at U2 as musicians and think of what they write as songs. But in reality except for ATYCLB and HTDAAB most of their albums only have a few "songs". U2 are painters really. Larry and Adam create the canvas and maybe put on the base coat or block in some elements and provide the base colors. Edge and Bono join in on mixing the pigments then they all start throwing paint on the canvas. Bono doesn't so much tell stories most of the time as he paints pictures. While I might not be able to make sense of the actual words sometimes I can usually picture or feel what Bono is getting at. And it is never just about the sound. I find I don't get the full effect of a U2 song until I've seen the band perform it. Since I haven't actually seen them live yet, only on video, I can only assume that may add another dimension to my understanding. The way Bono sings a song matters as much as the sound does. Everything from his body language to the expression on his face and his interaction with the others and the audience becomes a necessary part of the experience. This is why the band always says that they don't know what the songs are until they have shared them with the audience because the audience is a part of the song as well. I think this may also be why no one has ever had a bigger hit with a U2 song then U2 did originally(as far as I know). Dylan famously told Bono that people would remember U2 songs for a long time but no one else could sing them. In contrast Dylan's songs were quite often bigger hits for others than they were for himself. For me U2 songs aren't something I hear they are something I experience. Very few other artists make me feel that way.

Dana
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MOS was just played on the radio on KPRI here in San Diego :drool: It sounds so good on the radio -after it was over the DJ said this was his favorite track of the album. :heart: While I don't think it has the potential to be a mega hit like One (the song it keeps getting compared to in reviews) it definitely creates a mood.
 
Kinsa said:
MOS was just played on the radio on KPRI here in San Diego :drool: It sounds so good on the radio -after it was over the DJ said this was his favorite track of the album. :heart: While I don't think it has the potential to be a mega hit like One (the song it keeps getting compared to in reviews) it definitely creates a mood.
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The thing is, when I heard it on the radio coming back from lunch, I had to pull off the road. For 2 reasons, I couldn't believe I was hearing it on the radio outside the promotion week(ends) they played the album, and because I didn't want to be driving while listening to it.
They played the entire version and it stopped me in my tracks.
That just does not happen very often. :up:
 
does anyone else think that when bono sings - I WAS PUNCHIN THE NUMBERS AT THE ATM MACHINE - it sounds like bono circa 1988 - glorious
 
the oh god could not deny her makes me envision him singing bad in rattle and hum

one of my favorite "moments" of any u2 album
 
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