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Old 03-31-2019, 11:44 PM   #461
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Things will never improve for the poor, or minorities under Democrat rule. 50 years of history.

I agree, and they most certainly won't under Republican rule either.
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All I'm going to say is I said the movement for minorities becoming conservatives is growing, not that they are a majority. It's sad that it's taking people this long that they've been lied to for 50 years by the Dems, since LBJ, and that they have been poor for 50 years, voted for Dems, and are still poor because that's how the Dems designed "The Great Society", for control, for votes, zero empowerment.



Explain why most urban cities are rum by Democrats, yet they are still poor, crime ridden, and filthy. Things will never improve for the poor, or minorities under Democrat rule. 50 years of history.


I’m not going to even touch your Candace obsession rhetoric here, but explain to me this last part?

Do you have an urban model ran by the GOP that you can show something different?

It’s just common sense that a more populated urban city will SEEM more crime ridden, filthy, and poor. This isn’t an educated observation.

The urban cities for the most part economically end up supporting the rural cities. So this line that Candace keeps trying to sell you makes no sense. You claim you’re a fact based economics guy, sell it to me, because so far all I hear is a parrot.
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The easy lazy notion is "uh, he hates illegal immigration so he's racist", meanwhile he has done more for Hispanics , African Americans, empowering intelligent talented women in leadership, than Obama, or Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, all the Democrats combined.
Uh, no.
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https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/03/all-about-pete

I think the views of the author of this article probably align pretty closely with peef’s, but he does a much better job of laying out the case for pumping the brakes on the Buttigieg hype train, or at least digging a little deeper into his views.

That said, if we insist on purity testing all our potential candidates and tearing them apart when they fall short, we run the risk of Dave’s scenario, where the other side walks away with it.


Are you sure that Peef didn’t actually write that? Forget the views of the author, check out that writing style. Same problem that I had with Peef—makes points that I often agree with, but also oddly feel compelled to try and poke holes in them as a result of his condescension and dismissiveness toward anyone who doesn’t 100% agree. “If you don’t feel the same way I do about this thing, then you’re oblivious.” “Funny this issue is framed in a way that differs from the way I feel it should be, clearly that’s weird.” “This thing isn’t his priority, that sounds suspicious to me.” This book report is full of that, which is too bad since I do think it brings up important concerns.

Like a lot of Peef’s post, I also only made it about 2/3 of the way through before I got tired of that sanctimony.


 
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Give me examples of "immense, characterizable hatred of Mexican and Central American people on the right today". The Mexican and Hispanic, as well as the African American conservative movement is growing because many are realizing that the left making comments like this are complete lies, and that really the left are the ones trying to make minorities "stay in line" and not find the freedom that the conservative platform offers. See the Blexit and Lexit movements, and read the blogs and pages of many who have left and are leaving the Democrat plantation because they have found that they're not really oppressed by anyone, except those on the left that want to Lord over them they they "help them by giving them table scraps".

Any one news source is not enough, Fox news , or any other. That being said, let's look at how many stories Fox has had to retract, and how many CNN or The New York Times has had to retract.
My handle name on another forum is Chico, I’ve lost count of how many times trump supporters told me to go back to Mexico or that I’m an illegal and the ICE will come and get me. They see the word Chico and automatically assume i am Mexican and therefore I must be some sort of drug lord rapist or something. I am not Mexican I am Argentine not that it matters because to them latinos are bad hombres. If that’s not hate I don’t know what is. And as headache pointed out the president is another fine example!
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All I'm going to say is I said the movement for minorities becoming conservatives is growing, not that they are a majority. It's sad that it's taking people this long that they've been lied to for 50 years by the Dems, since LBJ, and that they have been poor for 50 years, voted for Dems, and are still poor because that's how the Dems designed "The Great Society", for control, for votes, zero empowerment.
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Explain why most urban cities are rum by Democrats, yet they are still poor, crime ridden, and filthy. Things will never improve for the poor, or minorities under Democrat rule. 50 years of history.
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If estimates hold, the downturn in the overall crime rate will be similar to last year’s drop. Overall, despite upticks in 2015 and 2016, crime rates*are still on a downward trend and have been since 1990.*
https://www.brennancenter.org/press-...largest-cities

try again.

What is increasing is not crime... That's a false narrative that's played up by the right wing media (psst... it's too keep people who don't live in cities afraid of brown people).

What's increasing is inequality. I'm afraid that's not something you're going to be able to pin on the Democrats (although they are not innocent in that regards... )


Violent crime has been on a significant downward trend in major cities across the country for 30 years.
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try again.

What is increasing is not crime... That's a false narrative that's played up by the right wing media (psst... it's too keep people who don't live in cities afraid of brown people).

What's increasing is inequality. I'm afraid that's not something you're going to be able to pin on the Democrats (although they are not innocent in that regards... )


Violent crime has been on a significant downward trend in major cities across the country for 30 years.
Democrats want equality of results, conservatives want equality of opportunity. You can try to find your way around it, but inner city poverty like in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, NYC, DC, etc, all run by Democrats. Areas like Indiana, Texas, have less poverty, better run local government. Nice try yourself sir.

Oh, BTW, these communities don't need more free money thrown at them, but talented and hard working people within the communities to step up, say no more, realize no one is oppressing anyone, and run with it. I've lived and still live in these communities, talk to people everydsy, so I'm very aware of what works, and what doesn't and why. There's no magic bullet, gonna take a lot of hard work, but Democrat policy is certainly never gonna bring anyone out of poverty. Never has in 50 years. Hence, movements like Blexit and Lexit that are emerging.
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just two days ago a police bodycam video was released of a black man getting executed with 30 bullets to the head from six white cops for the crime of falling asleep in his car in the parking lot of a taco bell, but "no one is oppressing anyone" in american inner cities according to gzusfrk who, as a white man who doesn't live in a major city, clearly knows everything there is to know about urban racism in america, so i guess there's nothing to see there.

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Democrats want equality of results, conservatives want equality of opportunity. You can try to find your way around it, but inner city poverty like in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, NYC, DC, etc, all run by Democrats. Areas like Indiana, Texas, have less poverty, better run local government. Nice try yourself sir.



Oh, BTW, these communities don't need more free money thrown at them, but talented and hard working people within the communities to step up, say no more, realize no one is oppressing anyone, and run with it. I've lived and still live in these communities, talk to people everydsy, so I'm very aware of what works, and what doesn't and why. There's no magic bullet, gonna take a lot of hard work, but Democrat policy is certainly never gonna bring anyone out of poverty. Never has in 50 years. Hence, movements like Blexit and Lexit that are emerging.
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Democrats want equality of results, conservatives want equality of opportunity. You can try to find your way around it, but inner city poverty like in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, NYC, DC, etc, all run by Democrats. Areas like Indiana, Texas, have less poverty, better run local government. Nice try yourself sir.



Oh, BTW, these communities don't need more free money thrown at them, but talented and hard working people within the communities to step up, say no more, realize no one is oppressing anyone, and run with it. I've lived and still live in these communities, talk to people everydsy, so I'm very aware of what works, and what doesn't and why. There's no magic bullet, gonna take a lot of hard work, but Democrat policy is certainly never gonna bring anyone out of poverty. Never has in 50 years. Hence, movements like Blexit and Lexit that are emerging.
You completely ignored that your claim of cities being just riddled with crime is false.

And man, you are so dramatically underestimating the poverty issues in rural America.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...-urban-america

And Indiana? 31st in the nation in poverty rates. Texas? 38th.

Of the top 10 states for lowest poverty rates? 8 of 10 are "blue states." Only North Dakota and Utah crack the top 10 from the red side, and Utah's a fairly unique situation as far as states go.

Of the bottom 10 states... 9 of 10 are red, and the lone exception, New Mexico, is purple.

https://talkpoverty.org/poverty
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Should we talk about how red states are welfare states surviving on those sweet, sweet blue state federal dollars?

Super liberal California is the 5th largest economy in the world.

The black/Latino “exit” from the Democrats is a Russian troll operation.

Now I’m going to go back wiping away rage tears at the thought of a monster like Joe Biden coming anywhere near the presidency.
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Should we talk about how red states are welfare states surviving on those sweet, sweet blue state federal dollars?

Super liberal California is the 5th largest economy in the world.

The black/Latino “exit” from the Democrats is a Russian troll operation.

Now I’m going to go back wiping away rage tears at the thought of a monster like Joe Biden coming anywhere near the presidency.
Excellent point.

If Alabama really wanted to have road, well they should just try a little harder.

It's about providing opportunities, not hand outs.
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TIL that conservatives are STILL trying to make Blexit and Lexit a thing, and that a president who has been openly racist on numerous occasions, and (as charitably as can be stated) is extremely sympathetic to white supremacists, has done more for the good of minorities than any democrats ever.

Quite an educational morning!
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He doesn't support him, tho
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US Politics XIII: Don Jr. The Worst Judgment of Anyone in the World.

But there’s like a couple of minorities that do, and remember that black woman they not racistly trotted out at the Cohen hearing? Totally schooled the libs — If Trump is such a racist, why did he hire this black woman?

Crickets from the left.

Boom!
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Would Diamond and Silk support a racist? Didn't think so. Suck it, libs.
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You completely ignored that your claim of cities being just riddled with crime is false.

And man, you are so dramatically underestimating the poverty issues in rural America.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...-urban-america

And Indiana? 31st in the nation in poverty rates. Texas? 38th.

Of the top 10 states for lowest poverty rates? 8 of 10 are "blue states." Only North Dakota and Utah crack the top 10 from the red side, and Utah's a fairly unique situation as far as states go.

Of the bottom 10 states... 9 of 10 are red, and the lone exception, New Mexico, is purple.

https://talkpoverty.org/poverty
Eagerly awaiting a response to this.
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Glad there's no stupid people working at Fox News.

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I'd also just like to point out that NYC was run by a republican or republican/independent for most of the last 30 years.

Moderate Republicans, and the republican/independent is now a Democrat... alas.

Man, remember a day when Rudy was considered a moderate, so much so that the Conservative Party of NY wouldn't even put him as their candidate despite winning the republican primary?

Those we're the days, man.

But yea... Democratic run shit hole.
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What's wrong with this?

Mexico, New Mexico and Old Mexico.
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