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Old 06-18-2018, 02:42 PM   #741
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Nice try but I’m Christian myself and the hypocrisy of the Christian Right when it comes to this revolts me.


Sessions himself quoted THE BIBLE to try to defend this new policy.
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You’re from New York and I’m rocket man.

Eh, not looking good for you.
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Nice try but I’m Christian myself and the hypocrisy of the Christian Right when it comes to this revolts me.


these evangelical extremists are actually making me want to reclaim my faith

(christian background, but don't go to church, don't like organised religion, and never wanted to impose such a faith structure on my kids)

meh maybe some good has come of it
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Sessions himself quoted THE BIBLE to try to defend this new policy.
he makes me want to puke
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You’re from New York and I’m rocket man.

Eh, not looking good for you.
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You should really talk to someone about your anti-Christian bigotry. The fact that you try to blame "God fearing Christians" for these tragic and sad events (which have been going on for many years by the way) says more about you than it does about Christians.

We should ALL try to be part of the solution. It's funny though when anti-God people always expect Christians to do something. if it wasn't for Christians, there wouldn't be as many homeless shelters, orphanages, food pantries, and food banks as there is.

Maybe the athiests should step up and do something. The arrogance and hypocrisy is disgusting on your part.
that's what you took from that post?? this is fucking repulsive.

yes, your outrage and disgust in this situation should definitely be focused towards "anti-christian bigotry", and not the fact that there are literal concentration camps for children in the united states today being used for the express purpose of destroying poor families looking for a better life.

you're more upset at some unkind words directed at an abstract group of people who aren't here reading this than you are about children being raped and abused and sold into human trafficking rings. you somehow managed to spin yourself as the poor victim in a story about children's lives being destroyed. that's sickening.

these are emphatically NOT the teachings of jesus christ, and are in fact the exact opposite. he did not preach to close your doors to the needy and destroy lives in the process to make an example out of them, as i recall from the last time i read the gospels. you should be ashamed to call yourself a christian if you support this policy in any way.

i gotta say though that i'm shocked that you didn't shoehorn this into another vapid and ignorant screed about "leftists" and blame this whole fiasco on your laughably stupid idea of what socialism is.
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Remember when people told us there was no difference between Trump and Hillary, and now children are in concentration camps.
really? who ever said this?

I recall lots of 'lesser of two evil' discussions, but not once did I ever hear anyone claim the two were alike. other than both being repellant, of course.
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really? who ever said this?



I recall lots of 'lesser of two evil' discussions, but not once did I ever hear anyone claim the two were alike. other than both being repellant, of course.


There are some bros I’d like you to meet ...

You did manage to equivocate, though, in that post claiming that no one did, so there you go.
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There are some bros I’d like you to meet ...

You did manage to equivocate, though, so there you go.
wow, you are still upset at Bernie. OK.

I think your anger is misplaced.
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wow, you are still upset at Bernie. OK.



I think your anger is misplaced.


No. I’m much more upset at the dipshits who voted for Jill Stein. Or didn’t vote.
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https://readbloomjoy.com/2018/06/17/...llowed-to-hug/

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Employee At ‘Prison-Like’ Youth Migrant Shelter Quits After Being Told The Children Aren’t Allowed To Hug

Recent accounts of migrant detention centers have been shocking and settling — none more so than the descriptions of the shelters specifically designed for immigrant children who have been separated from their parents at the border.

Reporter Jacob Soboroff recently toured one of these migrant youth shelters, and what he saw was deeply disturbing and highly reminiscent of an authoritarian regime.







Soboroff isn’t the only one who is alarmed by these conditions. Apparently, even shelter workers themselves are reaching a breaking point.

Antar Davidson, a former employee at a youth shelter run by nonprofit Southwest Key in Arizona, recently resigned from his position when he was told to separate three Brazilian siblings who had been transferred to the shelter. The three kids, aged 16, 10 and 6, were huddled together and crying. Davidson was given very specific instructions by his superiors: “Tell them they can’t hug.”

Davidson, who speaks Portuguese, describes to the Los Angeles Times how he tried to comfort the siblings as they were “huddled together, tears streaming down their faces.” Apparently, they had been told their parents were “lost,” which they interpreted to mean “dead.”

Davidson told them that officials weren’t sure where their parents were, but that they needed to stay strong.

“The 16-year-old, he looks at me and says, ‘How?'”


At that point, Davidson says he thought to himself, “This is not healthy.”

These centers have been under considerable pressure, thanks to Trump’s “zero-tolerance policy,” which has resulted in an influx of children. According to the LA Times:

"Under the zero-tolerance policy, cases that had been handled administratively in immigration court were now prosecuted as misdemeanors or felonies in federal court. Migrants were charged with crossing the border illegally and separated from their children, who were placed in shelters."

“What was once a transient facility with a staff that was strained and struggling is now becoming a more permanent facility,” Davidson says, describing the establishment as “prison-like.”

The shelters were evidently not prepared to deal with this many new kids, and as a result, conditions were becoming increasingly questionable.

“[Kids] had no idea where their parents were. The case managers said it’s going to be a week until we even find their parents and another week until we talk to them. I just saw how they were bungling these cases,” Davidson says. “At that point, zero tolerance was in full swing and you could see the desperation: kids running down the hall, screaming for their moms.”

this is beyond unconscionable. there's no defending this in a society that claims to be "free". the animals who are doing this to children deserve nothing less than to be put up against a wall.
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Dear god. Those murals alone are terrifying. How very dictator-esque.

Please somebody tell me there is some big revelation or criminal charge or whatever coming that can officially get Trump out of the White House as soon as humanly possible. Please. He needs to be gone by the end of this year, at least. Shove him out of the White House and lock the doors to avoid letting him back in if you have to.

The GOP should be ashamed of themselves for letting things get to this hellish point. Utterly ashamed.
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It is absolutely, 100 percent appropriate to compare what this administration is doing with these children to what was being done by Nazi Germany. And I've seen an absurd defense to this line of thinking which amounts to, "We're not killing these children."

1) Way to set the bar high.

2) Yet.
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You should really talk to someone about your anti-Christian bigotry. The fact that you try to blame "God fearing Christians" for these tragic and sad events (which have been going on for many years by the way) says more about you than it does about Christians.

We should ALL try to be part of the solution. It's funny though when anti-God people always expect Christians to do something. if it wasn't for Christians, there wouldn't be as many homeless shelters, orphanages, food pantries, and food banks as there is.

Maybe the athiests should step up and do something. The arrogance and hypocrisy is disgusting on your part.
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There were definitely people saying the two parties were "basically the same" in the lead-up to the election. I understand that thinking to an extent. But now that we're in Trumpworld? LOL, yeah they're not the same.

That quote on the mural? It's from Art of the Deal. Because of course it is.
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There were definitely people saying the two parties were "basically the same" in the lead-up to the election. I understand that thinking to an extent. But now that we're in Trumpworld? LOL, yeah they're not the same.

That quote on the mural? It's from Art of the Deal. Because of course it is.
yes and there are still a lot of folks who do not distinguish between the 2 main parties. In particular from the angry left wing anti-corporatist elements. which is why you have these fringe left and right wing nut job scrums.

at the end of the day the Dems better find a way to get a clear and compelling message out there. and someone with the cojones to take the battle where it needs to be won. maybe your former CEO?
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i am so glad that the people who were so concerned about the welfare of children that they were brandishing assault rifles in pizza parlours last year are being equally vocal in their concern and support of these abused kids as well.
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2) Yet.
This terrifies me.

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I've seen an absurd defense to this line of thinking which amounts to, "We're not killing these children."

1) Way to set the bar high.

2) Yet.
Holy fuck.
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