The End is Nigh: US Presidential Election Thread Part XVI

[Mrs. Garrison]

Originally Posted by coolian2

You're not worth reading

Thanks, have a nice day

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

TRUMP did not say he was going to ban all Muslims, or if he did i believe he retracted it to mean all Muslims from a specific area until properly vetted.

he said outright in the second debate that he was going to build "safe zones" for muslim refugees.

edit: in america.

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by anitram

I hate the word cunt, I think it's awful and YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE of the indignities that we women go through.

there are also curse words and nasty slurs that use the names for male genitalia.

[Mrs. Garrison]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

You have been conned.

Actually you were the one conned, your nominated the most corrupt candidate in history and she lost. We tried to warn you.

[anitram]

Originally Posted by DaveC

there are also curse words and nasty slurs that refer to the male genitalia.

Sure. I don't think that calling somebody a dick is generally said with the sort of anger/misogyny that is often associated with the word cunt. Regardless, I use neither so there's that.

[DaveC]

Originally Posted by anitram

I don't think that calling somebody a dick is generally said with the sort of anger/misogyny that is often associated with the word cunt.

i disagree. words only carry the offense of the receiver. if you find one supremely offensive, i don't think you can logically act as if the other is just another word.

[akann]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

Thanks, have a nice day

One thing is for sure, Mrs Garrison, all the bitterness, condescension, self righteousness and vitriol on these presidential threads has mainly come from the Democrat supporters. You had your reasons for voting Trump, you have explained them and good on you for doing so.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Shut Midtown Manhattan down.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

My sincere apologies for your friends experience.



You bring up the "pussy grab" thing, which is bad and i do not condone to this day. If you do not wish to unite with fellow u2 fans who are sincerely offering an olive branch to you, then i am sorry but at least we are trying. Keep in mind there are always plenty of other u2 fans here, who like yourself hate TRUMP, but also who use the word "c__t" with an alarming regularity right here in this forum, some even in this thread. I guess that's okay with you though.


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See that?

Not a single admission of and celebration of sexual assault in that entire cunty paragraph.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

You bring up the "pussy grab" thing, which is bad and i do not condone to this day. If you do not wish to unite with fellow u2 fans who are sincerely offering an olive branch to you, then i am sorry but at least we are trying. Keep in mind there are always plenty of other u2 fans here, who like yourself hate TRUMP, but also who use the word "c__t" with an alarming regularity right here in this forum, some even in this thread. I guess that's okay with you though.

STOP STOP STOP equating these two, they are not the same!

I know deep down you are smarter than this. What is it that keeps you putting on the blinders?

He bragged about how he could get away with groping women. If you had a daughter, do you really want to have the conversation and explain to her "if a man grabs you by the pussy it's not ok, unless he's rich and a celebrity, because then he might be your president one day"?

The other conversation is very easy, "don't use the word cunt, it's very disrespectful and sexist".

Two entire different things. How is it you don't get this?


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[LemonMelon]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

you nominated the most corrupt candidate in history and she lost

I hope you're not speaking generally. I didn't nominate her. I simply challenged the thin ideological platform and moral corruption of her opposition and now I'm stuck with it.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

Actually you were the one conned, your nominated the most corrupt candidate in history and she lost. We tried to warn you.

You've been conned to think that Trump will do anything to help you. Or help anyone other than the wealthy. He loves low information voters.

I'm a DINK in a flashy city with a significant income and stocks and health care. My taxes are going down. My property values are going up. I'm going to be just fine under Trump. He wants to fuck with my same-sex marriage? He won't. He's a big city elitist just like me.

I vote to help people, perhaps people like you -- vets, people living in the middle of the country, people without health care, vets who I don't want to be sent to another unnecessary war -- have better lives. Republicans don't give a shit about you. They only give a shit about giving people like me a tax cut. But I vote for people who care about the vulnerable, precisely the Trump voter.

White working class men and women have been conned into voting against their own self interest. It's criminal.

But maybe I'm running out of sympathy, if we're going to keep up this racism and misogyny.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by akann

One thing is for sure, Mrs Garrison, all the bitterness, condescension, self righteousness and vitriol on these presidential threads has mainly come from the Democrat supporters. You had your reasons for voting Trump, you have explained them and good on you for doing so.

Says the poster that said, feminism is not something to be proud of, piss off you PC tool, murders, and defended a man that killed a Tinder date.




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[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by DaveC

i disagree. words only carry the offense of the receiver. if you find one supremely offensive, i don't think you can logically act as if the other is just another word.

Call me a faggot and I'll break your nose. That's not the offense of the receiver. That's the response to the historical violence behind certain terms when applied to certain groups.

I get you were making a distinction, but words have history.

[akann]

Originally Posted by BVS

Says the poster that said, feminism is not something to be proud of, piss off you PC tool, murders, and defended a man that killed a Tinder date.




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The man was acquitted by the Australian judicial system so what's your problem? Have a read through the last few pages, the Democrat supporters have not covered themselves with glory, and you are right up there with the worst of them.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

TRUMP did not say he was going to ban all Muslims, or if he did i believe he retracted it to mean all Muslims from a specific area until properly vetted. I suspect that area is the part of the world suffering from the consequences of our horrible and failed foreign policy which has led to many years of war.

Oh, he only wants to do that to SOME Muslims, then, my bad. That's so much better.

As for that foreign policy, I've said numerous times that I hate that Clinton supported the Iraq War. But I will remind you that Trump supported the Iraq War, too, much as he wants to pretend otherwise. And I'll also point out that singling out a certain group of people and vetting them to prove they're not terrorists, profiling them and discriminating against them, is a large part of what fuels the anti-American sentiment in that part of the world.

I'm also still waiting for Republicans to explain how this vetting process will solve the problem of the terrorists we've had lately who were born and raised here.

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

Speaking of endorsements, i hope you took notice of the Clinton Foundation Donations that poured in from countries who support rape and murder of women, homosexuals, etc. I have been to some of those countries first hand and it still goes on to this day, very sad.

So we're going to make blanket statements about an entire country because of the horrific atrocities of some, then? If she was getting endorsements and donations from leaders of those countries who actively encouraged that behavior, I'll be right with you in the outrage.

But if the donations were coming from people throughout the country in general, people who may NOT have supported the horrible acts committed there but were just unfortunate enough to live there, that's...not exactly comparable to a specific individual affiliated with an abhorrent group endorsing a candidate.

I'll also remind you yet again that our next vice president supports conversion therapy for gay people, and Trump bragged about grabbing women without their consent. Seems your preferred candidate and his VP would fit right in in those countries you speak of.

Originally Posted by Irvine511

You've been conned to think that Trump will do anything to help you. Or help anyone other than the wealthy.

Yep.

[iron yuppie]

Originally Posted by anitram

I don't think that calling somebody a dick is generally said with the sort of anger/misogyny that is often associated with the word cunt.

Thank you. I don't know when the campaign began in here to present c**t as some kind of benign term.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by akann

The man was acquitted by the Australian judicial system so what's your problem? Have a read through the last few pages, the Democrat supporters have not covered themselves with glory, and you are right up there with the worst of them.

We both know judicial systems are not perfect, i.e your opposition to abortion. But that's not the issue.

How have I not "covered myself with glory"?


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[Moonlit_Angel]

Speaking for myself, I honestly had never even HEARD the "c" word growing up. Seriously. If anyone I knew did use it, they apparently did so when I wasn't around. It wasn't until I saw discussion of that word on some show years and years ago, talking about how bad and offensive it was, that I had any clue about the word itself and its power here.

I'm not personally as bothered by its use as others are here, since it wasn't a word I had to deal with growing up. But knowing now how offensive it is to some people, I don't think it would hurt if people stopped throwing it about so much.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by DaveC

meanwhile, hillary isn't in jail yet. imagine the reaction if she had been elected and broke a major campaign promise without batting an eye on day one.

Well, Orange Donnie's day one is actually January 20, 2017. So he hasn't broken that promise yet.