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Old 01-18-2010, 11:23 AM   #321
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Did you stay up all night making that up?

I think you meant ass, not as. Ass makes more sense. Just helping you out
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:25 PM   #322
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Wednesday, January 20, 2010

CNSNews.com) – A bill currently before the Senate would empower the Obama administration to nationalize the student lending industry, eliminating the federally subsidized private loans millions of university students rely on to finance their educations.

Under the system proposed by Obama, the government would cut private lenders out of the picture entirely, setting the interest rates and collecting payments directly for all student lending.
Let me guess. The president didn't want to run the student loan industry. Why, he has enough on his plate fixing the economy, creating and saving jobs, managing two wars, reforming health care, overseeing the two car companies he didn't want to run either ...
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Let me guess. The president didn't want to run the student loan industry. Why, he has enough on his plate fixing the economy, creating and saving jobs, managing two wars, directing health care reform...
This industry is already heavily government subsidized, so perhaps the government can share the profits instead of shouldering all the losses.
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This industry is already heavily government subsidized, so perhaps the government can share the profits instead of shouldering all the losses.

Sounds like the argument for Obamacare. We can only fix the problems in health care caused by government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions with MORE government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions.
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Sounds like the argument for Obamacare. We can only fix the problems in health care caused by government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions with MORE government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions.
Point taken, in the sense that there should be a broader discussion about the future of education and the cost of it. I'm concerned about anything that avoids "market forces" through loans, which just inflate the cost even more in the long run until even the loans are unaffordable.
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Old 01-20-2010, 03:16 PM   #326
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Point taken, in the sense that there should be a broader discussion about the future of education and the cost of it. I'm concerned about anything that avoids "market forces" through loans, which just inflate the cost even more in the long run until even the loans are unaffordable.
We agree.
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i actually feel kind of bad for the guy. his country is loaded to the gills with lunatics... then again, it's his fault for even wanting the job anyway. it's lose-lose.

note that i didn't say all americans are lunatics. obviously that's not the case... but holy shit do they ever come out of the woodwork in droves. the glen beck crowd are sure getting crazy with the cheez wiz these days.
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Obama Calls Team From 2008 for Races in Fall - NYTimes.com

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WASHINGTON — President Obama is reconstituting the team that helped him win the White House to counter Republican challenges in the midterm elections and recalibrate after political setbacks that have narrowed his legislative ambitions.

Mr. Obama has asked his former campaign manager, David Plouffe, to oversee House, Senate and governor’s races to stave off a hemorrhage of seats in the fall. The president ordered a review of the Democratic political operation — from the White House to party committees — after last week’s Republican victory in the Massachusetts Senate race, aides said.

In addition to Mr. Plouffe, who will primarily work from the Democratic National Committee in consultation with the White House, several top operatives from the Obama campaign will be dispatched across the country to advise major races as part of the president’s attempt to take greater control over the midterm elections, aides said.

“We are turning the corner to a much more political season,” said David Axelrod, a senior adviser to the president, who confirmed Mr. Plouffe’s role. “We are going to evaluate what we need to do to get timely intelligence and early warnings so we don’t face situations like we did in Massachusetts.”

As Mr. Obama prepares to deliver his State of the Union address on Wednesday and lay out his initiatives for the second year of his presidency, his decision to take greater control of the party’s politics signals a new approach. The White House is searching for ways to respond to panic among Democrats over the possible demise of his health care bill and a political landscape being reshaped by a wave of populism.

Yet improving the tactical operations addresses only one part of his challenge. A more complicated discussion under way, advisers said, is how to sharpen the president’s message and leadership style.
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it appears as if Obama has made the mistake of speaking to the American people as if they are adults.
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haha, yes. that seems about right.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:38 PM   #331
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Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval - 01/24/2010

Approve: 48%
Disapprove: 47%

This marks a new high in disapproval for Obama.

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
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his first year average approval is the same as Reagan and ahead of Clinton's

They both got reelected.


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his first year average approval is the same as Reagan and ahead of Clinton's

They both got reelected.


You could also say his first year average approval is LESS than Carter or Bush Sr.. They both failed to be re-elected.
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Sounds like the argument for Obamacare. We can only fix the problems in health care caused by government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions with MORE government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions.
That's what they always say.

If you think it's Obama then you have been as misled as everyone else. Just like they want you and everyone to believe , you have no solution, no power so you stand behind a party that sets out to destroy anyone or any plan/reform because it wasn't introduced by doesn't sit well for them.
I'm not speaking of any particular party because to say one party has the answer is fucked.
Both parties are fucking us.

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it appears as if Obama has made the mistake of speaking to the American people as if they are adults.
And it appears that some of the adults don't like it.
He's in for so much more shit. But if change can come it's going to be because the majority of adults do give a shit.
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Sounds like the argument for Obamacare. We can only fix the problems in health care caused by government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions with MORE government inefficiency, regulations, mandates and market distortions.
If we keep the same government inefficiency

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Approve: 48%
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This marks a new high in disapproval for Obama.

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You could also say his first year average approval is LESS than Carter or Bush Sr.. They both failed to be re-elected.
Which goes to show that posting stats doesn't necessarily bolster your case when differing (and yet equally true) conclusions can be drawn from them.
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:04 PM   #337
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Narcissist ?

You decide:

Berry: Obama said "big difference" between '10 and '94 is "me" - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com
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First of all, anyone that says that a PUSA doesn't have an ego doesn't have a clue, secondly those in the media that are making an issue of his ego should look in the fucking mirror once in awhile. Thirdly, conservatives are losing all concept of context, it's pretty sad.
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it appears as if Obama has made the mistake of speaking to the American people as if they are adults.
That's not a joke. There is one clear truth in politics. Every politician knows it. Every pundit knows it. And every journalist knows it. But nobody can ever say it.

It's that people are, for the most part, stupid. Obama would do well to dumb down his communication a bit. I'm not saying he has to start talking like a tea bagger, but he should cut down on the professorial tone a bit.
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People today think like the stock market. What matters are the quarterly reports. Everything that is long-term: no chance. Results need to show immediately.
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